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I want to ask you atheist something. Do you believe that life ust happened and that you walk out and see the sun all vegetation the air that you breath just Happened????
No.
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What is even stranger you will believe that some how we came from monkeys.......
No, we don't believe that. It is only creationists who are willfully ignorant of the ToE that say that
What is even stranger you will believe that some how we came from monkeys which has no foundation and is totally absurd rather then to believe that there is a supreme power that has created all this and is very detailed in his thinking.
You have just exposed yourself as someone who is utterly unaware, ignorant, and uneducated about what evolution really is. As such, I dismiss anything you say as invalid, until you do a little homework and learn how evolution worked/works.
Supernova, Conjunction, or Comet as the Star of Bethlehem?
A supernova did occur within the above time frame. Supernovae, once referred to as "guest stars," were regularly recorded by Chinese astronomers. And in March and April of the year 5 BC, a supernova appeared in the constellation Capricornus. This star that suddenly appeared glowed for approximately 70 days before fading again.
Comets were recorded in both 5 BC and 4 BC. The comet in 4 BC, in particular, is a good match because it fits with the year most commonly believed to be the actual time of Jesus's birth and the comet that appeared that year did not have a tail, making it more "star-like." However, comets were often considered ill harbingers, and not signs of good fortune.
Conjunctions of planets occurred throughout the years mentioned, but the one most often cited as a good possibility for the Christmas Star is the one which occurred on June 17, 2 BC. On this date, Venus and Jupiter appeared so close together in the evening sky, at a tiny 6 arc seconds apart, that they would have appeared to be one very bright star. Venus shone at -4.3 and Jupiter at -1.8 as they appeared to merge in the constellation Leo. This would have been a significant sign for ancient astrologers, who were viewed as scientists in those days, reading the heavens. Leo was the ruler constellation, and this impressive conjunction would have certainly been noticed by the wise men of the time.
If none of these astronomical options sound like good solutions to the mystery of the Star of Bethlehem, then maybe you will have to simply explain it as a Christmas Miracle.
I doubt that even a comet, let alone a conjunction of stars would set a group of astrologers trotting of to Judea on the off - chance that the event signified a royal birth,let alone that the birth referred to was a Jewish one. I doubt that even a Supernova would do it.
Moreover, Matthew says that this 'star' went ahead of them to Bethlehem and stopped there, smack over the roof. The implication being that it was the reason they went to Judea in the first place and that it was just fifty feet at most above the roof. Plainly the suggestion of comets, planets or stars will not fit. This is hardly proof of the Bible. It is in fact, being only one of a set of silly stories, much better as disproof of the Bible.
It is high time that reputable scientists, intelligent enough to work out conjunctions and the like, stopped making themselves look foolish by trying to find something astronomical that might fit Matthew's silly story.
It is high time that reputable scientists, intelligent enough to work out conjunctions and the like, stopped making themselves look foolish by trying to find something astronomical that might fit Matthew's silly story.
The scientific basics of the story could be accurate -- ie, a comet or supernova, and the "magical" bits like it stopping above the stable could be embellishments (*coughLIEScough*) by biblical authors in order to make the story more plausible?
I doubt that even a comet, let alone a conjunction of stars would set a group of astrologers trotting of to Judea on the off - chance that the event signified a royal birth,let alone that the birth referred to was a Jewish one. I doubt that even a Supernova would do it.
Moreover, Matthew says that this 'star' went ahead of them to Bethlehem and stopped there, smack over the roof. The implication being that it was the reason they went to Judea in the first place and that it was just fifty feet at most above the roof. Plainly the suggestion of comets, planets or stars will not fit. This is hardly proof of the Bible. It is in fact, being only one of a set of silly stories, much better as disproof of the Bible.
It is high time that reputable scientists, intelligent enough to work out conjunctions and the like, stopped making themselves look foolish by trying to find something astronomical that might fit Matthew's silly story.
This is still personal interpretation, not objective proof. The bible doesn't say anything about a supernova.
Wow I can't believe you stated that Ag Soldier !!!! You wanted scientific proof I gave it to you and you go back to the Bible. Are coming or going ???? No it doesn't say that in the Bible but it talks about a bright light that was in the sky when Jesus was born though around the same time as scientific proof of the comet.
The scientific basics of the story could be accurate -- ie, a comet or supernova, and the "magical" bits like it stopping above the stable could be embellishments (*coughLIEScough*) by biblical authors in order to make the story more plausible?
yes don't you wish they could disprove this??? they have tried for centuries with no avail
I doubt that even a comet, let alone a conjunction of stars would set a group of astrologers trotting of to Judea on the off - chance that the event signified a royal birth,let alone that the birth referred to was a Jewish one. I doubt that even a Supernova would do it.
Moreover, Matthew says that this 'star' went ahead of them to Bethlehem and stopped there, smack over the roof. The implication being that it was the reason they went to Judea in the first place and that it was just fifty feet at most above the roof. Plainly the suggestion of comets, planets or stars will not fit. This is hardly proof of the Bible. It is in fact, being only one of a set of silly stories, much better as disproof of the Bible.
It is high time that reputable scientists, intelligent enough to work out conjunctions and the like, stopped making themselves look foolish by trying to find something astronomical that might fit Matthew's silly story.
hey if you keep reading the Bible you maybe can come up with another religion as if we don't have enough of them. What people don't realize you can have all degrees even have all the languages and still can't interpret the Bible God put a lock and key on it only humans can get to it. 1st John 1:9 only way to God's truth.
Wow I can't believe you stated that Ag Soldier !!!! You wanted scientific proof I gave it to you and you go back to the Bible. Are coming or going ???? No it doesn't say that in the Bible but it talks about a bright light that was in the sky when Jesus was born though around the same time as scientific proof of the comet.
You're making personal interpretations. That isn't scientific proof of the comet. A bright light could be interpreted in many ways, all of which are people twisting the verses to fit what they want them to say.
You need to research where you research...Obviously you found the gems of quote mined camel dung on some creationist site..They have all been refuted many times.
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