Folks. Good people. Let’s just all take a giant Step Back and examine this entire, 110+ page thread, shall we?
We’re now locked into arguments with someone who believes:
1 that all dinosaurs and all other species (+35 million of them) were
insta-poofed into existence along with an
insta-poofed pair of humans.
2. the biblical idea that only two of anything can “beget” a surviving population, though ecologists have seen species whose populations fall below about 50 die off quickly.
3. that an old man, Noah, got sufficient numbers of each type (I’d say an absolute minimum of about 10 mating pairs for each of about 25 million types; = 250 million animals, many weighing over a few tons) onto a 400 meter long
wooden boat, absent proper engineering or any metal re-inforcements,
4. That the remnants of that boat now lie on a Turkish Mountain, (Mt. Ararat), though satellite pass-bys of any and all claimed Ark remnants have shown to be limestone-basalt complexes (
"Purt-heavy boat, wouldn’t yah say, sailor?")
5. that said boat could carry ten T-Rexs, 10 12-tonne brontosauri, 10 stegasaurs, 10 megasaurs, 10 veloci-raptors, etc. Such a boat, would have to carry, by my rough calculation, about 75,000 tons of animals. And their food.
6. that God commanded many of them, despite their dentition and biochemical needs and digestive enzyme systems, to be functional Vegans for 18 mo.
(milk sprays out my nose…)
7. that Noah had enough food for same (I quick-calculated that the actual Vegan
Brontis alone would require a minimum of 200 TONNES of vegetation stored onboard. But where did they get the equally necessary fresh water? Did Noah have that in handy goat-skin containers below decks?
8. and that…. Oh but you get the picture. All kid’s fantasy stuff.
But then, oh no ,there’s so much more on other planes of thought…
9. He wants us to believe, against the
vast preponderance of valid carefully researched evidence (which he dismisses as all hoax and fraud unless it magically happens to support his ideas) two fairy-tales about ceramic figurines and vases scratching, both of which have been proven to be
probable hoaxes, and even in they are not, they do
not disprove Evolution, because…
10. He simplistically dismisses a now-proven fact by saying that
“Evolution is Just A Theory!” Blah Blah blah…. How can you disprove a now-established fact by calling it by the layman’s simplistic and kindergarten-level definition of a Theory??? We know the exact mechanism of how it works, that’s even been proven in a lab against all accusations of fraud, and against ALL questions about it's veracity & reproducability.
Other YECs have simply stopped responding to threads about this spectacular 2008 proof, because they cannot refute it, so they'll just ignore it! There Yah Go!
We have a huge fossil record, including thousands of transitionals.
We find, everywhere, evidence as
PREDICTED by that so-called Theory. Exactly as it would
PREDICT. in terms of geo-stratification, physiological & structural development, DNA mapping, relative location to other finds and evidence, and their "fit" as transitionals. We now have “transitionals”
up the wahzoo, but Answers in Genesis (AiG) lists
Ten Arguments Not to Get Into with Scientists or Atheists", says to discount and ignore them, and gives genuinely stupid reasons by which to refute them.
This debater cannot even define
“transitional”, and fights this evidence by simply recycling, again and again, that
“you have no transitionals!”. But then we show him pages and pages of photos, and remind him that everything is a transitional because Evolution never stops. He also won’t look in the mirror to see one.
And so what do we get here? His complete rejection of all of it, followed by another recycled comment.
I’d strongly consider taking a break, folks, unless you are...
a) Entertained by simple things that never stop going
“ba-zoink, bah-zing, bleepity-blongo, ring-a-ding-ding”, or…
b) You think you’ll convince this one or his various buddies to accede to any of your logical points. Ever.
Nope.
It’s not in his DNA,
ergo it’s not functionally possible.
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PROOFS? PROOFS? We dohn need no stinkin' PROOFS!
