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However, when my husband and I disagree on an issue, he usually has the swing vote. We will discuss it, certainly. He will listen and I know that he truly respects and desires my POV. But if a decision HAS to be made on an issue, his vote will out rule mine. I am fine with that. We have never run into in marriage-threatening issues.
Just out of curiosity -- your husband has the swing vote on EVERY issue? Even issues that affect you more than him, such as your medical care? Can he overrule you, for example, on what specialists your should consult or what medications you are to take?
We have never been placed in a situation as you have described and I thank God for that. I will say that my husband loves me very much and is always concerned with my health. He has been known to make me take meds or vitamins. I generally consume my life with the needs of others, hence not taking proper care of myself. He is the one who generally worries about my health. Trust me, any woman would be blessed to have a husband as loving and caring and turstworthy as mine.
We have never been placed in a situation as you have described and I thank God for that. I will say that my husband loves me very much and is always concerned with my health. He has been known to make me take meds or vitamins. I generally consume my life with the needs of others, hence not taking proper care of myself. He is the one who generally worries about my health. Trust me, any woman would be blessed to have a husband as loving and caring and turstworthy as mine.
I understand, and I congratulate you on your good fortune. But, you have not answered my question. Neglecting to take vitamins or meds is not the same as making an affirmative decision about your medical care -- like say, requesting an epidural during childbirth. Can your husband overrule you on an actual decision, a considered choice, that you make about your medical care?
I understand, and I congratulate you on your good fortune. But, you have not answered my question. Neglecting to take vitamins or meds is not the same as making an affirmative decision about your medical care -- like say, requesting an epidural during childbirth. Can your husband overrule you on an actual decision, a considered choice, that you make about your medical care?
Redisca,
I cannot imagine ever being placed in a situation as you have described. (I've actually had 5 epidurals in my lifetime. Don't think he cared.) However, I think that I know what you are getting at, so let me take a hypothetical stab at...
I had a tubal when I delivered my 5th child. Sometime after that, I was having some health issues that almost seemed to indicate a preganancy. This would have obviously been a pregnancy that would not go to fullterm and who knows what the health risks might have been. At that time, my husband and I discuss at length what options we might have had or choices we would have needed to make.
For me, terminating the pregnancy seemed the only choice. Now, I should tell you that we are a Catholic family. Abortion is not a choice that I would make easily. At that time, my husband was not fully prepared to say that terminating the pregnancy would be our only option. As it turned out, I was not pregnant, just experiencing some other health issues. Do I know what would have come of that situation? No. In my heart, I believe that we would have discussed it, prayed about it, researched all/any medical options and in the end, would have agreed on what to do.
I am afraid that is the best answer I can give you. My having my tubes tied was not a choice that either of us took lightly. However, I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease in the 5th month of my last pregnancy and my health trumped any other moral/religious issues that we had with that.
Going a little deeper into this discussion, I believe that my husband and I place God first in our life and in our marriage. We do not just make decisions based on our own selfish needs or views of life. We go to God in prayer and in doing so, I believe that God rewards our honor and commitment by not placing us in situations that would place our marriage at risk. I was once told by a friend when I was struggling with an issue that I felt very strongly about, that if God had placed it on my heart, then He would also place it on my husband's heart. So far, that has worked out well for us.
Based on your religious views, can you tell me what is the status of a woman in today's society. Do your believes that women should be ranked below men? Here in US we consider everyone equal, men and women. Do you agree with this equality and why, or why not?
I believe that men and women have different roles in life and that those roles, although different, are equally valuable to society. I believe that evolution has developed inherently different characteristics in each sex to insure survival of the species - that women are nurturers and caregivers and that men are protectors and providers and that going "against" these inherent natural tendencies is unwise and ill advised. Humanity has prospered by accepting and respecting these differences and humanity will suffer if we cease to do this.
Genesis 3:16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
Exodus 21:7 "If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.
Numbers 31:1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people." 7 They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle. 15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. 16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
We want Wiccan to be happy and equal, not relegated to a Mother-Homemaker unless that is what she wants. (In which case, Mother-Homemaker is an admirable role.)
Genesis 3:16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
Exodus 21:7 "If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.
Numbers 31:1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people." 7 They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle. 15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. 16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
We want Wiccan to be happy and equal, not relegated to a Mother-Homemaker unless that is what she wants. (In which case, Mother-Homemaker is an admirable role.)
Funny you quote Scripture since you don't believe the Bible What she would get is a man who would put his needs aside to care for his wife, a man willing to sacrifice for her, make her welling being his primary importance. Both husband and wife are called to submit each other and this is rarely a problem in homes where both partners have a strong relationship with Christ and where the each is concerned for the happiness of the other.
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What she would get is a man who would put his needs aside to care for his wife, a man willing to sacrifice for her, make her welling being his primary importance. Both husband and wife are called to submit each other and this is rarely a problem in homes where both partners have a strong relationship with Christ and where the each is concerned for the happiness of the other.
