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Old 07-17-2008, 01:08 PM
 
Location: The 719
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I am sick of it all. I'm sick of really starting to get something going and maybe even a foot onto the Rock that is Christianity.

Only to be pulled down by my interpretation of Life or Human Nature or The Devil or to be run off my some "Christian's" big-fat hypocritical mouth.

Don't get me wrong. Some christians have truely "got it." I hope they always will. I wish I could.

And there are a few athiests out there that I think "have it." Well, maybe only a couple.

But what about us Agnostics? Where do we fit in? This is why I'm posting this NOT in Christianity and NOT in Athiests.

I consider myself to be a staunch spiritual person. I want more. I want to go to Heaven, but not right now. And I don't want to go to Hell. Not ever. Although, I believe I might have backed out of Purgatory on several occasions. But the staunch Christians will say, "Oh no you didn't! Hell is so much worse." Oh really? How the hell do YOU know?

Show me something practical. Show me your true and unadulterated testimony. Not your belief in some book.

I don't have a problem with the book. I think the Book would be just fine if us dorks would just leave it alone and create our own "Book", our own Life Experience!

Once you put it down on paper, it becomes STATIC! This world and this UNIVERSE AIN'T STATIC!!!!!!!!!! IT'S NOT LINEAR!!!!!!!!!! THERE ARE NO ABSOLUTES!!!!!!!!!!!! THERE IS A TIME TO KILL!!!!!!!!! THERE IS A TIME TO STEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THERE IS A TIME TO LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't tell me I'm going to Hell. How the HELL do you know? Don't tell me I'm going to Hell unless you're willing to lead the way.

I want a new religion. I may have to create my own. I may have to be quiet about it. But I'm sick of your religion.

GOD is just bigger than that! I know this for a fact! I just can't prove it right now. If I could, I'd probably be in more trouble than I think I am in now.

How's that for a paradox?

PS: Flashforward to Haaziq: Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm more of an Others, aka Locke fan. And no. The earth is not Static. It's dynamic. Our minds make it static and put it into a time/space box to get a finite understanding of it. But thanks for the viewpoint.

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Old 07-17-2008, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Sheffield, England
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McGowdog, you have hit the nail on the head in most spectacular fashion. In a lifetime I could never put it better myself. Good job sir!
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:13 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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Perhaps one of the dharmic religions would be more in line with your beliefs?
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:15 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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Dharmic Religions
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:16 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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I'm only sick of the 'status quo'.
And the fact that optimists are only optimistic because they simply deny the fact that things could go wrong (which actually makes them worse than pessimists).
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:17 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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Double post.

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Old 07-17-2008, 01:22 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Oh, and the universe is indeed static.
I respectfuly disagree haaziq, change is the only constant in this universe of ours.
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Religion is man, that is Hell in and of itself.

Go direct like you were intimating. Doesn't take a building, you are a temple.
Doesn't take a offering plate, you can serve where you are lead.
You need not that any man teach you, go within.

There should be no confusion in pure truth and love.

Don't even listen to this, unless it helps.



godspeed,

freedom
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:24 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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I respectfuly disagree haaziq, change is the only constant in this universe of ours.
Yet the more we humans change, the more we stay the same.
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:24 PM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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Well, McGowdog, I'm sorry for your bad experiences, whatever they may be. It sounds like you are extremely frustrated right now.

I would be glad to share my very real testimony with you, but not on this board. You can DM me if you are serious. Such openness of a very private matter on a very public board leaves too much ammunition for the unbelievers.

And I think you are so right about God being bigger than any of us ants can even fathom. I get soooo upset when I see someone saying something completely arrogant about their knowledge, education or worldly experiences that have "proved" to them that there is no God. Uh, Hello??!! They wouldn't have a brain to think with if God hadn't created them!!!

You obviously believe there is a God, but think that He is too big for us to have a relationship with Him, right? We can because of Jesus. But Jesus is the ONLY way. And it can be completely personalized to fit YOU, not how OTHERS think it should be for you. Yes, reading the Bible and understanding it is important, but that is a natural progression of growth in Christ, not a force-feeding of what others believe.

Anyway, dm me if you want. I do want to help if I can.
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