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Why? Seriously, why? Where outside of scripture does anything suggest it is real, true and final?
If you do not believe Jesus was God the Son, that He was born of a Virgin, lived a sinless life, and that He died for our sins and rose again, physically, on the third day, and that the Bible is the Word of God, inerrant, or at least infallible, and that His gift of Grace is given only on the condition of Faith, then I do not consider you a Christian and as such, I have no reason for any discourse with you in this forum. It is only if we can agree on those things, that we can have any intelligent discourse on this subject.
If you do not believe Jesus was God the Son, that He was born of a Virgin, lived a sinless life, and that He died for our sins and rose again, physically, on the third day, and that the Bible is the Word of God, inerrant, or at least infallible, and that His gift of Grace is given only on the condition of Faith, then I do not consider you a Christian and as such, I have no reason for any discourse with you in this forum. It is only if we can agree on those things, that we can have any intelligent discourse on this subject.
If you do not believe Jesus was God the Son, that He was born of a Virgin, lived a sinless life, and that He died for our sins and rose again, physically, on the third day, and that the Bible is the Word of God, inerrant, or at least infallible, and that His gift of Grace is given only on the condition of Faith, then I do not consider you a Christian and as such, I have no reason for any discourse with you in this forum. It is only if we can agree on those things, that we can have any intelligent discourse on this subject.
Well, you are right. That eliminates intelligent discourse on your part.
If you do not believe Jesus was God the Son, that He was born of a Virgin, lived a sinless life, and that He died for our sins and rose again, physically, on the third day, and that the Bible is the Word of God, inerrant, or at least infallible, and that His gift of Grace is given only on the condition of Faith, then I do not consider you a Christian and as such, I have no reason for any discourse with you in this forum. It is only if we can agree on those things, that we can have any intelligent discourse on this subject.
This is NOT the Christianity forum. It is the Religion and Spirituality forum where we discuss religion and so on. Presumably you came on here to discuss the topic or spin offs from that topic.
The state of experience of the mother of Jesus is a bit far off topic.
But as nate says;
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Originally Posted by nateswift
Well, you are right. That eliminates intelligent discourse on your part.
Pretty obvious to me that you and David Bivin are wrong and Paul the Apostle was right.
And it's pretty obvious that you do not research much...Your own Jesus said that the law would not end until heaven and earth pass away...Who's right, Jesus or Paul?...You can say that Jesus fulfilled the law all you want but he said until heaven and earth pass away the law would not...
1 Cor 1:23
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Scripture is final authority, and I don't have a problem with that.
And it's pretty obvious that you do not research much...Your own Jesus said that the law would not end until heaven and earth pass away...Who's right, Jesus or Paul?...
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That is not what He said, so both of them are right, and you are still wrong
2 Peter 3:3
knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days
with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. (ESV)
The scoffers, as much as anything, are a sign of the times.
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