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What are the odds of a supernatural being having all it's qualities be 100%. Why not 50% omnipotence and 75% omniscience? What are the odds that some being has everything at maximum? I ask this because believers like to bring up the odds that we just happen to have a planet in just the right place, a certain distance from the sun, a certain tilt,etc. when they want to talk about probabilities of us existing. Discuss.
What are the odds of a supernatural being having all it's qualities be 100%. Why not 50% omnipotence and 75% omniscience? What are the odds that some being has everything at maximum? I ask this because believers like to bring up the odds that we just happen to have a planet in just the right place, a certain distance from the sun, a certain tilt,etc. when they want to talk about probabilities of us existing. Discuss.
100%
That's what eternity is.
That's what infinity is.
Without limit.
Spirit is eternal and without limit.
Physical is finite and limited.
That's what eternity is.
That's what infinity is.
Without limit.
Spirit is eternal and without limit.
Physical is finite and limited.
Tzaph, I'd like you to explain what you mean or understand as eternity and infinity.
To me the solar system and the planet Earth are very imperfect. The whole galaxy is imperfect. It resembles the aftermath of some catastrophe. So does Earth. It's functional though, as imperfect as it is. It kills us and other living things with regularity. But we survive somehow against the odds, probably because we have this inherent imperfection of wanting to breed indiscriminately at all costs (well it's not so much the desire to breed but you know what I mean).
What are the odds of a supernatural being having all it's qualities be 100%. Why not 50% omnipotence and 75% omniscience? What are the odds that some being has everything at maximum? I ask this because believers like to bring up the odds that we just happen to have a planet in just the right place, a certain distance from the sun, a certain tilt,etc. when they want to talk about probabilities of us existing. Discuss.
What are the odds that the entire universe, its design and everything in it, has all come together by random chance?
for me ... as I look at all the things we know today and interpret the story line that links all the pieces together?
I would never end with a reasonable interpretation that includes an omni-type god. I probably wouldn't end with any one interpretation, we just don't know enough, but no, zero chance of omni-god.
of course, when we look and link, the funda-mentalist-think atheist interpretation of "oh yeah, atheism says "deny anything" is just as childish.
Both are projections of brain state and can be used to help that particular brain. But, as we all know, the ones that need it the most think their world view is a divine revelation, not knowing that the gut wrenching event in their lives was the divine ... for them that is.
for me ... as I look at all the things we know today and interpret the story line that links all the pieces together?
I would never end with a reasonable interpretation that includes an omni-type god. I probably wouldn't end with any one interpretation, we just don't know enough, but no, zero chance of omni-god.
of course, when we look and link, the funda-mentalist-think atheist interpretation of "oh yeah, atheism says "deny anything" is just as childish.
Both are projections of brain state and can be used to help that particular brain. But, as we all know, the ones that need it the most think their world view is a divine revelation, not knowing that the gut wrenching event in their lives was the divine ... for them that is.
Infinity is math. You don't do math?
"Infinity symbol. The infinity symbol (sometimes called the lemniscate) is a mathematical symbol representing the concept of infinity. "
Eternity is physics. You don't do science?
"all agree on one essential lesson: the space-time that we inhabit is a construction. It is not fundamental to nature, but emerges from a deeper level of reality."
Last edited by Tzaphkiel; 07-04-2017 at 08:56 AM..
One can find creator (god) only at the time of conception of creation and at the time of it destruction.
Between those two instances, creator can't be found as it is creation.
for me ... as I look at all the things we know today and interpret the story line that links all the pieces together?
I would never end with a reasonable interpretation that includes an omni-type god. I probably wouldn't end with any one interpretation, we just don't know enough, but no, zero chance of omni-god.
of course, when we look and link, the funda-mentalist-think atheist interpretation of "oh yeah, atheism says "deny anything" is just as childish.
Bs.
First you say we don't know enough and with certainty you proclaim there is zero chance of a God. Talk about deny anything!
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