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Yes, I said your examples are incorrect because they're incorrect.
I did not change my stance. I am not quoting myself out of context to make it appear that I think one thing when I am making clearly contradictory claims.
Skyl3r my love, I haven't got time for this. My examples were correct, everything I said about open and closed systems was correct, and all the links you posted support and agree with everything I said.
If you still think what I said is incorrect I don't know why you posted the links because you don't seem understand them.
You can continue the argument if you like on your own, or you can go back and read over it all.
I've got other things to do.
(I predict you'll carry on the pointless argument on your own).
Skyl3r my love, I haven't got time for this. My examples were correct, everything I said about open and closed systems was correct, and all the links you posted support and agree with everything I said.
If you still think what I said is incorrect I don't know why you posted the links because you don't seem understand them.
You can continue the argument if you like on your own, or you can go back and read over it all.
I've got other things to do.
(I predict you'll carry on the pointless argument on your own).
Cruithne, my love. I understand that you think you're correct and I'm happy to allow you to continue thinking that. As much as I'd enjoy carrying on the pointless argument on my own, I am willing to assume victory and move on.
Cruithne, my love. I understand that you think you're correct and I'm happy to allow you to continue thinking that. As much as I'd enjoy carrying on the pointless argument on my own, I am willing to assume victory and move on.
Just answer the question, then. How did the universe get here? Give me an answer and you'll see no ducking, deflecting or running from me.
We do have a faint idea but we can't say we know. What we do know is it wasn't created by some God dude or the other. It could not have been created by the bible God and we know this because the bible does not say it was! Where on earth do you people get this idea that God created the universe from? Do you really think God would create something as profound as the universe and not make sure it is written in the bible which is after all, God's divine word. Remember?
P.S. That Antonov is simply awesome! 660 tons! Holy cow!
Sorry Cruthnne. In post 176 I meant to quote Vizio not you....where he said...'Maybe it's just the way my brain is programmed, but I cannot fathom the idea that it has always existed.'
Sorry Cruthnne. In post 176 I meant to quote Vizio not you....where he said...'Maybe it's just the way my brain is programmed, but I cannot fathom the idea that it has always existed.'
It is based on the ritual written in Genesis that Abraham is supposed to perform by sacrificing baby animals and splitting them in half and them them out in such design.
Yahweh (originally likely a polytheist Arabic "Ruler" god) and El (originally the polytheist Babylonian "Creation" god) are names used to describe the "All/Highest" diety of the Jews.
Exodus also describes the god that appears to Moses (a Burning bush and dark-cloud faced man) and the Elders of Israel (the dark-cloud faced man that turned the ground he touches with his feet into Dark Blue precious stone).
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