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Old 06-01-2015, 06:38 PM
 
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BTY-twins born during C-section have exactly the same birth date and time. Placements? Pure Nonsense.
No,that is not correct,
my twins delivered through C-section were born two minutes apart.
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Old 06-01-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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Does it even matter whether a person was born naturally or with the help of a surgical method? The fact remains that his entering the world during a certain month/season must have had a profound influence on his personality, since it was a major event in his life.

Science has even started to confirm that the time of year a person is born will affect their personality.
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Old 06-01-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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I believe there is some substance to some ancient, esoteric knowledge.

But akin to "understanding" the Bible, or "learning to use the internet properly", it requires considerable sifting of wheat from chaff.

And, I suspect, is beyond the ken or interest of many, if not most.
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Old 06-01-2015, 09:06 PM
 
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It a scam. If astrologers are right they will be millionaires where they can get the exact right numbers. Stay clear of them as they are after your money and deceive people.
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Old 06-01-2015, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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It a scam. If astrologers are right they will be millionaires where they can get the exact right numbers. Stay clear of them as they are after your money and deceive people.
If you are referring to the purported "astrologer" the OP spoke about, yes, a scam indeed.

But don't paint all astrologers with the same brush.

Not all priests molest kids. Not all Fox News watchers have sub-room-temperature IQs.
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Old 06-01-2015, 09:54 PM
 
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I believe there is some substance to some ancient, esoteric knowledge.
But akin to "understanding" the Bible, or "learning to use the internet properly", it requires considerable sifting of wheat from chaff.
And, I suspect, is beyond the ken or interest of many, if not most.
Much ancient esoteric knowledge was developed over millennia by trial and error heuristics. The practical applications tend to have merit but the explanations and theories about how and why they work tend to be complete nonsense.
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Old 06-01-2015, 10:42 PM
 
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But don't paint all astrologers with the same brush.

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Are you saying that there are fraud astrologers, but also legitimate ones?
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Old 06-01-2015, 11:59 PM
 
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Are you saying that there are fraud astrologers, but also legitimate ones?
Yes.

Are you next going to ask me how one tells one from the other?

You'll have to test-drive them yourself and come to your own conclusions.

I strongly suspect those are the only ones you'll accept.
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Old 06-02-2015, 07:20 AM
 
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Yes.

Are you next going to ask me how one tells one from the other?

You'll have to test-drive them yourself and come to your own conclusions.

I strongly suspect those are the only ones you'll accept.
My position is that there cannot be any legitimate astrologers because astrology is not legitimate. The position of the stars at someone's birth is coincidence and has neither predictive nor causative properties of any sort. Anyone pretending otherwise is a fraud or naive.
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Old 06-02-2015, 10:32 AM
 
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No,that is not correct,
my twins delivered through C-section were born two minutes apart.
How did the doctor determine the exact time of birth for each of your twins? and were they (the twins) identical or fraternal? Since astrologers contend that "...the placements of the sun and planets..." determine a person's predisposition to certain emotional and psychological traits; the exact time and place at birth is (supposedly) highly relevant. What and how was a two minute difference in birth time defined and determined ?

I would contend that the relevant determiners (at conception; not birth) are the genetic make-up of the parent's combined 46 chromosomes (23 each from sperm and egg) that determine eye color, intelligence, number of muscle cells, height, quick twitch muscle fibers, etc.
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