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If the entire purpose of sexual intercourse is to achieve pregnancy, isn't sex with birth control, or any sex act that *cannot* achieve pregnancy, inherently immoral?
If you have sex for reasons other than birthing children, aren't you simply giving in to lustful desires?
How is an infertile heterosexual couple having sex any different than a gay couple having sex? Neither coupling can achieve a child, so why do it, rather than fulfilling lustful desires?
Further, aren't all sex acts rather than vaginal sex - technically sodomy?
Onan spilled his seed on the soil... but anywhere other than the womb has the same effect, so isn't the sin the same?
As a christian, shouldn't you be chaste unless you are actively trying to have a child? Wouldn't this limit you to having sex only once or twice a month, when the woman was fertile?
Some would say you are correct. However, it would also mean that once the woman is past child bearing age, no matter how much her husband needs or wants, it's a no-no.
That is, unless he is supposed to take on a younger wife, so that he can continue to procreate. That would appeal to a lot of men. It would also make sense that no matter how old a man would be, as long as he could, he should follow God's command to perform and father children.
If sex is only for procreation, why would God (or Mother Nature) make the urge so strong for so long?
That is, unless he is supposed to take on a younger wife, so that he can continue to procreate. That would appeal to a lot of men. It would also make sense that no matter how old a man would be, as long as he could, he should follow God's command to perform and father children.
It would also fit perfectly into the inherently patriarchal system that Abrahamic religions set up! I suggest we canonize this law immediately!
Paul writes in First Corinthians that husbands and wives should not deprive one another of sexual contact because it increases the chances of giving into other sinful desires.
1 Corinthians 7:5
Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
If the entire purpose of sexual intercourse is to achieve pregnancy, isn't sex with birth control, or any sex act that *cannot* achieve pregnancy, inherently immoral?
If you have sex for reasons other than birthing children, aren't you simply giving in to lustful desires?
How is an infertile heterosexual couple having sex any different than a gay couple having sex? Neither coupling can achieve a child, so why do it, rather than fulfilling lustful desires?
Further, aren't all sex acts rather than vaginal sex - technically sodomy?
Onan spilled his seed on the soil... but anywhere other than the womb has the same effect, so isn't the sin the same?
As a christian, shouldn't you be chaste unless you are actively trying to have a child? Wouldn't this limit you to having sex only once or twice a month, when the woman was fertile?
I've made these points in "gay debates" before, but to no avail... guess for some people, the rules are bendable to their needs. At least I'm consistent in breaking them, LOL.
Onan's problem was that he didn't want to go to his dead brother's wife and impregnate her. That was the law then. Then he would have had her and the child to take care of. Otherwise she would have been on her own.
Maybe she was a horrid, total, b$tch, with bad breath and poor hygiene. He just didn't want to do the deed. He didn't want her to have his child. That was his big sin, not the spilling of seed on the ground.
That's the problem with reading extra things into the bible, a person tends to ignore what may the real meaning behind the scripture. Onan was disobeying the Law.
So, nobody willing to condemn masturbation or gay sex?
How about sex just for the fun of sex?
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