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Old 08-24-2011, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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The OP question isn't really a question in the sense that it can be satisfied with a biblical answer. It's an accusation.
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Old 08-24-2011, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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This is all a test. God knows what choices we will make in the end.
Makes a 'test' all rather pointless then doesn't it?
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Old 08-24-2011, 03:49 PM
 
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No!
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:16 PM
 
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Why not? What would be the point of applying a blow-torch to human skin to see if it will withstand heat when we already know the answer? Similarly, why would an omnimax deity 'test' us to see what choices we would make when it already knows the answer. The whole point of a test is to ascertain something that is unknown.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:20 PM
 
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Free will, and I walk by faith...

I don't believe anybody is forcing anything on you..live your life bro...Seek and find the truth, what ever the truth you find is yours to be held.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:31 PM
 
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Free will, and I walk by faith...
How does that explain why an omnimax deity would test something to find an answer to something it already knows.

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Seek and find the truth, what ever the truth you find is yours to be held.
Not necessarily. What one considers to be truth is not necessarily truth....unless it has some objective, verifiable, testable evidence to support it.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:38 PM
 
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How does that explain why an omnimax deity would test something to find an answer to something it already knows.

Not necessarily. What one considers to be truth is not necessarily truth....unless it has some objective, verifiable, testable evidence to support it.
"I" walk by faith.

"Your" truth.

You honestly want someone else thinking for you?
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:55 PM
 
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"Your" truth.
There is no such thing. Something is either true or it isn't. The fact that 'I' think it's true doesn't make it so.

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You honestly want someone else thinking for you?
No, I leave that to theists.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:58 PM
 
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There is no such thing. Something is either true or it isn't. The fact that 'I' think it's true doesn't make it so.

No, I leave that to theists.
How often do you argue with a stop sign

Find your own truth, if you are capable.
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Why not? What would be the point of applying a blow-torch to human skin to see if it will withstand heat when we already know the answer? Similarly, why would an omnimax deity 'test' us to see what choices we would make when it already knows the answer. The whole point of a test is to ascertain something that is unknown.
The omnimax deity is not seeking knowledge, obviously.
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