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Old 04-28-2011, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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If there were irrefutable facts that supported Jesus' existence we wouldn't be having this argument.
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Umm, the skeptics raised the issue to support their POV. Since 1750. To no avail. One would think that skeptics would have won by now. Or at least by 1890. Yet, no.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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I like to parallel his virgin birth, ministry, heavenly father, crucifiction and resurrection to the story of Horus...the Egyptian sun god. Some version of this story went around the middle east for 3000 years. It was told no less than two dozen times. It just happened that the Jewish version was last.

The Jews wrote the stories about Jesus and they don't even believe them.
So when pesented with evidence that suppots the NT you just close your eyes and put your fingers in your ears and humm loudly. Horus has major differences from Jesus. That theory is laughable in Christian circles.


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Old 04-28-2011, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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So when pesented with evidence that suppots the NT you just close your eyes and put your fingers in your ears and humm loudly.
..and that evidence would be..... what?
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Old 04-29-2011, 05:53 AM
 
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Umm, the skeptics raised the issue to support their POV. Since 1750. To no avail. One would think that skeptics would have won by now. Or at least by 1890. Yet, no.
Absent the brainwashing of innocent, gullible infants and small children it wouldn't be necessary.

C'mon now...virgin birth, walking on water, turning water into fine wine, feeding 6000 or 8000 hungry pilgrims with two fish and five loaves then gathering 12 baskets of leftovers, healing leprosy by touching, raising from the dead, hanging a man on a tree and bleeding him like a hog only to see him alive and well two days later. You got's to be kiddin' me!
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:04 AM
 
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Paul was a contemporary of Jesus. There are about 7 unquestionably authentic letters of Paul. These date from about 50 AD.

Would if have been possible for Paul to have written about Jesus who died less than twenty years earlier and be believed if Jesus had not?
Sure. Or he could have sincerely believed but been wrong.

Did Paul ever meet Jesus? If not, he's just another person working off of second hand (or worse) information.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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Scholars: Oldest evidence of Jesus?

October 21, 2002|By Jeordan Legon CNN

A limestone burial box, almost 2,000 years old, may provide the oldest archeological record of Jesus of Nazareth, according to several experts who announced the finding Monday.The ossuary, as the bone boxes are known, dates to A.D. 63 and has an inscription in Aramaic which translates to: "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus," said Andre Lemaire, an expert in ancient writing who identified the writing on the box in Jerusalem last spring.

Aramaic, an ancient Semitic language, was the lingua franca of the Middle East for many centuries. At the time of Jesus' life, Aramaic was the common language of the Jews.

Scholars: Oldest evidence of Jesus? - CNN
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Even assuming the age of the transcription, were not these three names common in the first century? There were probably many Joseph's with sons named James and Yeshu.
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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Well this doesn't prove anything but I do find it to be very interesting, my pastor has a friend that is a biblical scholar who happens to be an athiest, he believes that the people did experience something that was life changing, he does not know what the event was but believes it to be extraordinary.
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:14 AM
 
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Did Jesus Exist?

No, he did not.


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Old 04-30-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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Well this doesn't prove anything but I do find it to be very interesting, my pastor has a friend that is a biblical scholar who happens to be an athiest, he believes that the people did experience something that was life changing, he does not know what the event was but believes it to be extraordinary.
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Yes. That would be the Roman occupation of Israel resulting in the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD and finally the deportatrion of the Jews in 135 AD.

Those certainly were life changing events for them. Perhaps you should tell your pastor's friend the biblical scholar.
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:50 PM
 
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In light of the impact He has had . . . what is the purpose of questioning this now?
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