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Old 03-02-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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Is the moon made of green cheese, just because I believe it?
Truth has a subjective element and an objective element. The moon isn't made of cheese just because you believe it to be. That said, you and a friend could be looking at the moon. Your friend might see all light, and you might see all dark. Who has the truth--you or your friend? Is the moon light or dark? It's possible that it is both light and dark, but because you are viewing it from different angles, your friend sees it as all dark and you see it as all light. Sometimes there is more than one truth because you are both looking at the same truth from different angles. So in that sense, there is a subjective element to the truth, and when it comes to beliefs, perspective makes a difference. That doesn't mean that belief alone defines reality, but it does affect it. Even physicists are starting to realize that the physical properties of the Universe dictate that the observer has an effect on what is being observed. You can look up experiments like The Double-Slit Experiment that have caused even scientists to call into question just how absolute reality itself, and therefore the truth, is.
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:47 PM
 
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I think it is pretty clear that the subject is beliefs about god.
So stop beating around the bush and playing word games.
What is the one truth about god?
I would really like to know.
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And you're working really hard to draw me into an argument about whether or not Christinity is the truth.

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No, I actually am not. I don't care if you see it as the truth.... I just wish you would be clear about what you believe...

I have no need to argue with you, because even if you believe it to be the only truth I don't.

I also am able to agree to disagree....

But you are playing with words and the idea of truth...

I already know what you believe which is why I am pushing you to just come out with it and be clear about what you believe and what you see as truth...
I would like that also, Jazzy.
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