I've heard most all of "them" now; the official Godly Excuses used to dismiss a good, logical argument for some scientific truth or pathway. One of the more egregious
[and most un-Christian...] include outright
Lying for Jesus...,
Moderator cut: edit....or outright hypocrisy, or...
There's the
ad hominem (desperately) used to deflect the argument when
a debater is cornered with no way out of the impending philosophical "slaughter".
Or, the straw argument that over-exaggerates and demands the obviously impossible, like
"I'll believe evolution when some totally implausible event happens!"
Or, vast over-reaching exaggerations or conclusions in support of some Godly theory. Mention of a behemoth = PROOF of biblical dinosaurs. Thx, Ken Ham, you criminal!
(Imagine letting him into your kids' school room?)
Or, quote-mining a valid scientific article, pulling a line or two out and telling the inarticulate and gullible reader what was meant, but which is
not what was meant by the original authors....
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One wonders then; is it ever possible to enter into a decent, valid, intellectually honest argument with a dedicated fundamentalist Christian or Muslim here on C-D where their identity is protected?
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Alternately, can you imagine actually going
head to head, "mano-a-mano" with one of these
Moderator cut: edited to "members" in a properly adjudicated open forum? That would be truly be fun. I was at one of those about 20 years ago, where some supposed expert on Creation faced off with one of my profs who had written THE book on mammalian evolution. You know; full of facts, evidence, duplicated proofs, a bibliography, peer-review, etc.
Well....It was a
bloodbath, and the embarrassed and truly humbled Christian
(with his faked PhD, which was exposed about mid-debate...) flipped over into yelling insults at my prof, who had remained quiet and polite, but relentlessly logical. You know: dates, names, species, fossils, etc. All against
"Edit:"God"" say-ed, verily, thou shay-alt be but a hum-bell-ed deyed-mind and ob-eyah me!" Never had I seen so many one-syllable words turned into 2 or 3 syllable words! Phu-Nee!
The Christian eventually stomped off out of the lecture hall about one hour early, to the loud cat-calls of all the open-minded students there, and even from some embarrassed Christians, who probably finally saw the true light of their position and its scuttling defenders. It's always good when a
edit: Fundamentalist Christian only succeeds in converting several of their own over to
The Side of Enlightenment.
But here? On C-D? They
can skulk off into the Darkness, like
La Cucaracha, and return another day to start again with their hopeless shrillery.
So... what have
you experienced as a
run'n'hyde strategy?