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I didn't realize it was "picky" to want a man who has some ambition and can actually take care of himself.
Look, if i'm going to consider dating someone, he's going to have to at lease have as much ambition as I do, if not more. I'm not going to work like crazy and have him just sit around and look pretty.
It's good to be selective about the right things. I just got done reading another thread about a man that married a woman with 2 kids with the bio-dad in jail. I think she should have been a little more picky about who she slept with.
The feminists have obviously failed. Makeup as popular as ever, girls still dressing up in fancy dresses, women still seeing men as dollar signs.
Men unwilling to see a woman for what's inside...blinded by the fact that they're not under a size 8. Size 16? ....not even a consideration for marriage material, maybe something to glom onto until something better/prettier/skinnier comes along....but long-term? Nah... she's a cow. Yeah, look what television/commercialism has done to humanity! I see all the posts on here picking at women for wanting height, money, etc., not one post about how so many of these men won't even look twice at a gal who's not dang near model material. Have you heard the realistic news about gal size? The average female is actually a size 14. That is not large guys...not at all. The trouble is, the models on tv? They're generally a size 0..or at best....size 2-4. If guys are so picky that size is their number 1 criteria....they deserve to be lonely....just like the gal who is only looking for a rock solid six-pack on a male model. What's up? Are people looking for accessories or are they looking for a partner/best friend/potential father or mother to their children?
"women still seeing men as dollar signs" Men still looking for women who'll make other men jealous of them. Men looking for nymphomanics who'll do anything in bed FOR them, cook, clean, take great care of the kids, (Edit)..but WAIT I forgot to bring up that all important quick-witted sense of humor that allows her to be the life of the party (not enough to draw the attention away from him though) ....and hey, who wants a man that is going to sit on his a** all day, or go play with his friends all day while she's bringing home the bacon? Really? I'm sorry, but he better be doing a darn good job of taking care of things on the home front if she's going to bring home the bacon....laundry done, house clean, meals prepared, shopping done, yard landscaped, home repairs done, and ready and willing to please her however she wants to be pleased IF she's in the mood...if she's going to be supporting his butt! Oh....don't forget conferences, taking kids to practice/events, etc. LOL
The problem with many men today is that they want the model material, sweet gal who keeps the house clean, knows how to change the oil in the car, is a fabulous cook, never complains, is a great mother, does her own gardening, can multitask like a well oiled supercomputer....and has at LEAST a high 5-figure income! All of this so that he can afford his toys, have his weekends off to do whatever he wants to do, whenever he wants to do it.....all while making the other guys suck eggs because he's more macho and has waaaaay more, in every department, than they do. Sorry....I know that sounds cynical, but in many cases, it's the cold hard facts.
If you want a guy who's model good looking, drives a [luxury] car, has a condo in the city, vacations in Europe frequently, but miraculously doesn't have to spend a lot of time working for all that money so he can spend it with you, you're too picky.
Besides. he's almost certainly too busy "auditioning the talent" to have time for a relationship, let alone marriage. If he's not that intelligent and bungles his privileged lot in life, its very likely he won't have "all that money" for long.
I didn't realize it was "picky" to want a man who has some ambition and can actually take care of himself.
Look, if i'm going to consider dating someone, he's going to have to at lease have as much ambition as I do, if not more. I'm not going to work like crazy and have him just sit around and look pretty.
I don't see a problem with that. The problem is when women are demanding at least six-figure incomes and a upscale lifestyle.
The feminists have obviously failed. Makeup as popular as ever, girls still dressing up in fancy dresses, women still seeing men as dollar signs.
I appreciate your sense of humor... I do hope you were kidding here, but you know, in some sense you're right about your statement. On a woman's behalf, the feminist movement has been a double-edged sword. On the positive side, women have evolved. On the negative side, many of them are doing far more than their fair share of the work. For men, in many ways, it's been quite damaging...as so many of them have been unable to evolve....and find themselves not as "needed" as they once were. In many ways, they have allowed themselves to become only necessary for additional money and sexual fulfillment (or sperm). It isn't the women's fault that this happened. There are just so many guys out there who are perfectly content to sit around and let their women learn how to do predominantly "male" tasks so that they have more free time. They are rapidly making themselves unneccesary in so many ways....and that makes many of these men ANGRY because they don't get the respect that they THINK they deserve. LOL.....
I appreciate your sense of humor... I do hope you were kidding here, but you know, in some sense you're right about your statement. On a woman's behalf, the feminist movement has been a double-edged sword. On the positive side, women have evolved. On the negative side, many of them are doing far more than their fair share of the work. For men, in many ways, it's been quite damaging...as so many of them have been unable to evolve....and find themselves not as "needed" as they once were. In many ways, they have allowed themselves to become only necessary for additional money and sexual fulfillment (or sperm). It isn't the women's fault that this happened. There are just so many guys out there who are perfectly content to sit around and let their women learn how to do predominantly "male" tasks so that they have more free time. They are rapidly making themselves unneccesary in so many ways....and that makes many of these men ANGRY because they don't get the respect that they THINK they deserve. LOL.....
Well the common feminist saying was "women can do it all" and clearly there are some taking that word for word! HAHAHA!
It's a complex subject that has different outcomes for everyone, but ultimately I think a lot of this feminism has over cooked it and is headed for a crash.
It's had many different outcomes for men. Many have chosen to impregnate at will and leave the "system"(taxpayers) to bear the responsibility. Some have taken themselves out of the potential mating and dating pool altogether which doesn't help women find a mate. Others have chosen to live a James Bond/Life of Riley life dispensing with women at will and using them as they see fit. And a small percentage act out violently. And a percentage go homosexual.
Probably what has driven our pickyness is mobility and the media. 200 years ago you were pretty much stuck with what was down the street, cause you couldn't go anywhere else and you didn't know any better. Now we have unlimited choice and it's gone to our heads.
My standards are fairly broad when it comes to a woman. I just want someone who is nice to me, has a pleasant demeanor, has goals, is supportive of my goals, isn't a shopping addict, lives an active, healthy life with regular exercise and who complements my life and doesn't drain it dry.
Well the common feminist saying was "women can do it all" and clearly there are some taking that word for word! HAHAHA!
It's a complex subject that has different outcomes for everyone, but ultimately I think a lot of this feminism has over cooked it and is headed for a crash.
It's had many different outcomes for men. Many have chosen to impregnate at will and leave the "system"(taxpayers) to bear the responsibility. Some have taken themselves out of the potential mating and dating pool altogether which doesn't help women find a mate. Others have chosen to live a James Bond/Life of Riley life dispensing with women at will and using them as they see fit. And a small percentage act out violently. And a percentage go homosexual.
Probably what has driven our pickyness is mobility and the media. 200 years ago you were pretty much stuck with what was down the street, cause you couldn't go anywhere else and you didn't know any better. Now we have unlimited choice and it's gone to our heads.
My standards are fairly broad when it comes to a woman. I just want someone who is nice to me, has a pleasant demeanor, has goals, is supportive of my goals, isn't a shopping addict, lives an active, healthy life with regular exercise and who complements my life and doesn't drain it dry.
I will agree with this...and we can turn this thread into a battle of the sexes if we want. But the ones who really suffer from the gender war are the children. It is becoming quite apparent what effect that discarding these seemingly unnecessary men, or in many instances men who were simply absent to begin with, is having on the upcoming generation.
I will undoubtedly get called out for sounding as chauvinist as any man from the 1800's, but I will say it anyway: I believe that most modern women are failing at their true and primary biological duty of selecting good mates with whom to rear their children and foster a nurturing environment for their children nowdays.
Women are not totally at fault for this. Govt. programs have done a stellar job of making fathers, and dads obsolete. And obviously women are making great strides in politics, culture, and the workforce. But the lack of incentive for them to remain in marital/committed relationships is stifling the ability for them to both choose and maintain relationships with decent father figures for their children. This is not a job well done in my opinion.
Last edited by solytaire; 11-15-2009 at 06:34 PM..
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