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Old 07-13-2013, 07:12 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Why is that a problem, kids should learn early that they are not the center of the universe, in fact they are the bottom of the totem pole, they have done nothing to earn anything yet and are still learning.

By spoiling and pandering to kids we are becoming a nation of weenies, in fact when I was in army basic they were saying its getting really difficult to train young people into the military.
From my wedding vows; ''forsaking all other remain true to him/her as long as you both shall live''.
Sounds pretty clear to me. We chose each other, ''for better or worse, in sickness and in health,
as long as we both shall live. I swore to that with God, and my wife. That made it a covenant. I
have to choose my wife. I promised God, and her, that I would. End of discussion, for me anyway.
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Old 07-13-2013, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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All the people posting who don't actually have children are in capable of understanding the love a parent feels for their child. It's not a criticism - just a fact. Before I had my child, I couldn't imagine the love I could feel for my son. So you can say how you "would" or "might" feel until the cows come home - but it really doesn't mean anything unless you actually have children. I don't have siblings - I can say how I "would" or "might" feel about them - but at the end of the day, I have absolutely no clue because they don't exist.
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Old 07-13-2013, 07:46 AM
 
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Why? What part of merely being the child entitles that same child to ascend to the top of the totem pole?

Personally, I don't want kids so this has never been much of an issue for me, but even in that hypothetical situation I would not be too happy with someone who was openly willing to state that I was second place beyond the kids.
You can always replace your partner, even though some people also do that with their children.
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Old 07-13-2013, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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All the people posting who don't actually have children are in capable of understanding the love a parent feels for their child. It's not a criticism - just a fact. Before I had my child, I couldn't imagine the love I could feel for my son. So you can say how you "would" or "might" feel until the cows come home - but it really doesn't mean anything unless you actually have children. I don't have siblings - I can say how I "would" or "might" feel about them - but at the end of the day, I have absolutely no clue because they don't exist.
I don't have kids, but even I know that the people who are trying to argue that sex creates a stronger bond than growing, birthing, and nurturing a child don't know what they're' talking about.
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Old 07-13-2013, 07:55 AM
 
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man and woman can make new kids, man and kids can't make new wife...

that said I'm not sure that'd be the reasoning if i was standing in the middle and both parties were about to fall off opposide side of a skyscraper I was standing on...
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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man and woman can make new kids, man and kids can't make new wife...

that said I'm not sure that'd be the reasoning if i was standing in the middle and both parties were about to fall off opposide side of a skyscraper I was standing on...
Children aren't replaceable. You can't lose one and then just make another one and be okay.
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:14 AM
 
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IIRC, that's the official position of the Catholic Church in such matters. Not that children can be replaced, but that in a life or death situation the mother is more valuable to the family than a child. That's assuming that things are as they were in days of yore when people died more easily and more often, and when childbirth could often be deadly.
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:27 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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All the people posting who don't actually have children are in capable of understanding the love a parent feels for their child. It's not a criticism - just a fact. Before I had my child, I couldn't imagine the love I could feel for my son. So you can say how you "would" or "might" feel until the cows come home - but it really doesn't mean anything unless you actually have children. I don't have siblings - I can say how I "would" or "might" feel about them - but at the end of the day, I have absolutely no clue because they don't exist.
Maybe you can't understand is because you don't have a sibling. I am the father of two 'kids' and an active grandfather of two grand kids. None of them could have been possible without my wife. My mother lost 5 children, my brother and I lived. She also stayed married for 50 years (three of my father's sisters were married 50 years also). She would have chosen my dad. She told me the spouse came first.
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Maybe you can't understand is because you don't have a sibling. I am the father of two 'kids' and an active grandfather of two grand kids. None of them could have been possible without my wife. My mother lost 5 children, my brother and I lived. She also stayed married for 50 years (three of my father's sisters were married 50 years also). She would have chosen my dad. She told me the spouse came first.
Well, from your other posts - your feelings seem to be dictated by your religion. Mine are not.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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I remember when my father died my mother's friend told her, be thankful it wasn't any of your children. Dads no. 2 on the list.
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