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I DO NOT agree with this. It's lame to try to sneak up on a woman you don't even know and who doesn't know you. Tell her your intentions and what you want with words. She's been around the block a few times. She can handle it. That is one of the benefits of an older woman.
Wait... what?
"Sneak up"?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
"a woman you don't even know and who doesn't know you."
-I didn't mean on the FIRST date!!!!
You mention it
She comments on how she would like one.
You offer
She accepts.
You give her a REAL massage and then it's ether A or B
A. She gets a massage and you don't 'grope her'
B.She indicates to you that there are... shall we say fewer limits to it than would be otherwise.
All it is is getting the two of you past the 'touch barrier'
(It's a sub psychological barrier to any relationship. Once your comfortable touching each other (A form of intimacy) you can work on the rest... IF both are willing.)
I've had it so that It never went past a commercial massage level.
I'm a 25 year old male seeing a 44 year old women. I look closer to 35 though and she doesn't look 44 at all, maybe high 30's. We get along very well and the sex is great.
About your lunch date, think about the situation. You guys met for the first time, she was probably nervous. Did you expect her to make out with you and tell you how hot you are? If she agreed to meet you again she is obviously interested.
She probably jus wants to hang out with som fun and exciting men that actually have enough energy to want to go out and do stuff and she happnens to be a good cook.. why not? sounds kinda fun... and if thats what you want to then ...what the heck...?? She may not be serious but ... could be fun.. Just saying
I don't want anything long term -- Do I need to make sure I'm not leading her on?
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