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This is the truth. The last breed of honourable men with integrity and morals ceased to exist in this continent with the 80's. That's the last generation and they are the fathers of today, soon they will all grandpa out. I haven't met one American in my age group who has all the right things together. Coz it's a new generation of wussies (a fair share of them don't mind living off unemployment benefits and freeloading off the wives/women), and that's why the future of this country is at stake. It's up to the women to save it.
Even in corporate America, it's the women who are coming out stronger by the day. It's an observation I am continuing to make.
Because it seems to me that the more baggage you have in your life, the more men/women you attract ...and sadly the better person you are, the less lucky you are in the love arena... please tell me if i am wrong...can't find a half decent person in the world anymore...but is sadly true I want to be positive , but sometimes it gets pretty difficult to believe in people anymore...your thoughts are really appreciated ..thanks
I think you are wrong. You can't find a HALF decent person in the world? That's a HUGE statement. It makes me think your standards are way too high - from a person with really high standards herself who finds lots of people who are more than half decent.
Morals are always going to be relative to every individual , we all have different ideas of what constitutes "acceptable" behaviour I suspect.
But yes"morals" are incredibly important in my choice of mate ( and friends) , I would have a serious problem with people who were dishonest, cruel, cheats, took drugs . I could not have married someone who was an habitual boozer or a porn fan. Anyone who used prostitutes or was quite happy to exploit or abuse other people would not be someone for me.
I believe the vast majority of human beings need to be with people who have shared ideals and philosophies if the relationship is to work well. It doesn't mean one has to have the same ideas on everything but certain fundamentals have to be adhered to.
Social activism is a big part of my life so someone who went around quite happily ignoring social issues I consider crucial such as slavery and human trafficking or environmental issues, would not be high on my list of friends.
I realise not everyone share my values as they are my "morals" and as such try very hard to accept that I cannot force those issues on anyone else. I leave the judgement to someone else.
But why would I associate with people whose lifestyles I find repugnant . It would be in essence to condone certain behaviour and I cannot do that.
I could never be friends with a racist, homophobic, xenophobic , sexist bigot neo nazi for example as my own set of moral values rebel against everything those people stand for. It would be impossible for me to respect them ( and for them to respect me) so hardly a great beginning for a happy relationship.
We can always bend certain aspects of our values but the core must remain otherwisewe simply lose ourselves. If you do not stand up against what you believe is wrong, you stand for nothing and as such to me are a pretty shallow individual. I am not here on this planet to be popular and have often been ostracised for certain of my opinion , for being "too square". I don't care to be honest.
Everyone wants to be loved, admired and liked but I cannot alter who I am and the game is simply not worth the price one has to pay for it.
I admire people who have a moral backbone and have the courage to stand up for what they believe in. Even unpopular views I might despise are views I prefer people to be proud of.
There is nothing more off-putting than people who do not believe in anything and sawy with the wind in whichever directions is good for them. I find that quite despicable, even more despicable than being a bigoted neo nazi in a way. There is something grossly offensive to me about someone who is incapable of taking a stance.
I might not want someone who wants to be married before having sex--but on the other hand, I don't want someone who rushes into it either. I want to get to know a person first, and, also, if a person is promiscuous they're much more likely to be carrying some sort of STD. Which I'm not interested in sharing with them.
I've been lucky thus far...but, no, it wasn't about luck. It was about connecting with people that weren't eager to hop in the sack with a person.
"Morals" to me, implies a narrow-minded religion-based code of outmoded and illogical behavior, so no, I don't value "morals."
I DO value ethical behavior, based on thoughtful consideration of the impacts of one's behavior. It's true that ethical behavior often coincides with moral concepts, but ethical considerations will always be open to questioning any moral rule to see if it actually results in ethical behavior.
For example, many "moral" people may deny basic human rights to another group who differs from them in some way that causes no real harm, because some outmoded concept tells them to. Ethical people will examine the issue on its merits and conclude that there is discrimination and bias under existing rules and will support extending those rights to the other group.
"Morals" to me, implies a narrow-minded religion-based code of outmoded and illogical behavior, so no, I don't value "morals."
I DO value ethical behavior, based on thoughtful consideration of the impacts of one's behavior. It's true that ethical behavior often coincides with moral concepts, but ethical considerations will always be open to questioning any moral rule to see if it actually results in ethical behavior.
For example, many "moral" people may deny basic human rights to another group who differs from them in some way that causes no real harm, because some outmoded concept tells them to. Ethical people will examine the issue on its merits and conclude that there is discrimination and bias under existing rules and will support extending those rights to the other group.
It seems a little like semantics especially as Ethics are defined in the Oxford dictionary as "the moral principles which govern a person's or group's behaviour".
I am a staunch atheist and consider myself a deeply moral/ethical person ( unto myself as of course my sense of ethics like everyone else's is relative).
My sense of morality will have been influenced by Judeo Christian values as one is bound to be influenced by one's mainstream culture but I believe ethics and morals are interchangeable words.
Because it seems to me that the more baggage you have in your life, the more men/women you attract ...and sadly the better person you are, the less lucky you are in the love arena... please tell me if i am wrong...can't find a half decent person in the world anymore...but is sadly true I want to be positive , but sometimes it gets pretty difficult to believe in people anymore...your thoughts are really appreciated ..thanks
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I certainly value morals. My morals.Which means someone who isn't religious, believes in women's rights, isn't a republican, and is honest faithful and treats people kindly. My point being that you should look for someone who shares your personal values, whatever they may be. When you settle for less you are going to get treated in a way that you don't agree with
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Morals are always going to be relative to every individual , we all have different ideas of what constitutes "acceptable" behaviour I suspect.
But yes"morals" are incredibly important in my choice of mate ( and friends) , I would have a serious problem with people who were dishonest, cruel, cheats, took drugs . I could not have married someone who was an habitual boozer or a porn fan. Anyone who used prostitutes or was quite happy to exploit or abuse other people would not be someone for me.
I believe the vast majority of human beings need to be with people who have shared ideals and philosophies if the relationship is to work well. It doesn't mean one has to have the same ideas on everything but certain fundamentals have to be adhered to.
Social activism is a big part of my life so someone who went around quite happily ignoring social issues I consider crucial such as slavery and human trafficking or environmental issues, would not be high on my list of friends.
I realise not everyone share my values as they are my "morals" and as such try very hard to accept that I cannot force those issues on anyone else. I leave the judgement to someone else.
But why would I associate with people whose lifestyles I find repugnant . It would be in essence to condone certain behaviour and I cannot do that.
I could never be friends with a racist, homophobic, xenophobic , sexist bigot neo nazi for example as my own set of moral values rebel against everything those people stand for. It would be impossible for me to respect them ( and for them to respect me) so hardly a great beginning for a happy relationship.
We can always bend certain aspects of our values but the core must remain otherwisewe simply lose ourselves. If you do not stand up against what you believe is wrong, you stand for nothing and as such to me are a pretty shallow individual. I am not here on this planet to be popular and have often been ostracised for certain of my opinion , for being "too square". I don't care to be honest.
Everyone wants to be loved, admired and liked but I cannot alter who I am and the game is simply not worth the price one has to pay for it.
I admire people who have a moral backbone and have the courage to stand up for what they believe in. Even unpopular views I might despise are views I prefer people to be proud of.
There is nothing more off-putting than people who do not believe in anything and sawy with the wind in whichever directions is good for them. I find that quite despicable, even more despicable than being a bigoted neo nazi in a way. There is something grossly offensive to me about someone who is incapable of taking a stance.
OP, is it that you can't find anyone with "morals", or you can't find someone who agrees with all your beliefs? Exactly what do you mean by "morals" and "a half decent person"? You're not the first person to voice this complaint. But I think the above posts collectively hit the mark as to what the actual problem is.
There's a wide gulf between having different beliefs and being immoral. Case in point: my best friend is a rabid Republican. A Glenn Beck-watching, Obama-hating, gun-carrying, get-rid-of-the-New-Deal, church-going, nuke-al-Qaeda-till-they-glow conservative. I am none of those things. There's almost no issue, political, religious or ethical, on which we agree. But we respect each other immensely, and have debated lots of issues without getting into a fight. We are OK with our not agreeing, and even though we each shake our head at the choices the other one makes, we're still the best of friends.
OP, are you really not finding moral people, or do you simply have different beliefs? Just something to consider....
Yes, morals are very important, and there is a huge lack of morals in society, though I'm sure in the past it always was that way, people just hid it more.
if you put yourself on the meat market you will attract flies.
better join a hobby group/common interest group, you will meet great people. get out of the
flesh business.
It seems a little like semantics especially as Ethics are defined in the Oxford dictionary as "the moral principles which govern a person's or group's behaviour".
I am a staunch atheist and consider myself a deeply moral/ethical person ( unto myself as of course my sense of ethics like everyone else's is relative).
My sense of morality will have been influenced by Judeo Christian values as one is bound to be influenced by one's mainstream culture but I believe ethics and morals are interchangeable words.
Yes, it is semantics, really. On the other hand, not many people use the word "ethics," so it makes a distinction (though perhaps without a difference) that draws attention to my intended meaning. I am also an atheist with strong ethical principles.
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I want to be positive , but sometimes it gets pretty difficult to believe in people anymore...your thoughts are really appreciated ..thanks
