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If it only were, we'd have less congestion, less pollution, lower taxes, lower water bills, uncrowded stable Wake County schools, less rudeness, and less price inflation caused by transplants not knowing what to pay for things here.
So, it would be like those dying areas in the Rust Belt where the population is declining steadily? Yeah, they're doing *really great*.
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Originally Posted by saturnfan
If Raleigh were a little known oasis like when we came from New Orleans 21 years ago, it would be a great place for working people to live a decent life within their means.
Shut the door behind you, right? Now that you're safely ensconced in the best place to live in the country, you don't want anyone else to come here? Seems a little selfish.
Shut the door behind you, right? Now that you're safely ensconced in the best place to live in the country, you don't want anyone else to come here? Seems a little selfish.
This seems to be a common reoccurring theme on this forum. I don't think the poster meant any offense to potential transplants. He was just making the observation that these sensational headlines have probably fueled an unsustainable influx of transplants that actually negate the very benefits that the surveys praise (short commute times, low cost of living, low unemployment, etc.)
Another theme I've noticed from reading this forum is people seemingly moving to the Triangle area for strictly financial reasons after reading these types of surveys. A large number of people reading a best of list in a magazine and moving to an area only because they can get a bigger house are not necessarily going to endear themselves to the existing community. Everything has a price and rapid growth can burdensome to all people involved.
I agree that we all share this world together and should be welcoming of all newcomers. I believe most people in general have good intentions. There are just certain mentalities and trends that I've noticed on this message board that I can understand Triangle residents being concerned with.
So, it would be like those dying areas in the Rust Belt where the population is declining steadily? Yeah, they're doing *really great*.
Shut the door behind you, right? Now that you're safely ensconced in the best place to live in the country, you don't want anyone else to come here? Seems a little selfish.
You hit the nail on the head! And, it seems to be the mentality of those that moved here from somewhere else! This has been their sentiment for YEARS! I've seen and heard it for the last 30 years!!! It has always been a joke that the people relocating here want to "shut the door behind them"! This isn't new.
The economy has made it worse. Think of it this way...if you were unemployed and looking for work, would you want to say anything to encourage people to move here and be your competition for a job? Of course not.
The interesting thing is that I have had a few clients relocate here recently and all found jobs within a few months. Maybe they aren't as picky as some. A few of them got jobs with the state. One got a job as a manager of a grocery store and says they are still looking for more managers.
Or maybe it comes down to how well are you at SHARING? Maybe some people don't WANT to share the good life!
So, I'm actually being relocated to Raleigh for a job. I've been unbelievably impressed with the people, the city, everything, especially after 30 years in NY which is more of what Saturnfan is describing.
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Just had to share...
This morning 5/27/10 on Channel 4 in NYC they featured this! Counted down the top 5 and then did a little speel on why Raleigh is the number one spot! Wish I taped it! lol. I bet other states/cities are showing this on their news too!
Just had to share...
This morning 5/27/10 on Channel 4 in NYC they featured this! Counted down the top 5 and then did a little speel on why Raleigh is the number one spot! Wish I taped it! lol. I bet other states/cities are showing this on their news too!
On the general US forum (or was it city-vs-city?), someone posted the link to the story and claimed that DC was tops in the poll. In his/her original post, it mentioned several other top cities but never even mentioned Raleigh. Someone quickly corrected him on his mistake. Then, he went on to explain how nobody in DC would want to live in Raleigh and that they aren't comparable. So, I dug up facts that show the county (outside of NC) that sends the most new residents to Wake is Fairfax, VA...which happens to be the most populated county in the DC MSA. He then pointed out that he was talking about "the city" not the burbs. Of course, people in these forums tend to want to use the facts and definitions most convenient at a very specific time to make their cases. The DC folks will always tell you about their millions and millions of residents that are actually either in VA or MD... but...dare you actually refer to those residents as a reference to your arguments.
The amazing thing to me is, despite the accolades that Raleigh gets, there still are plenty of people out there to whom Raleigh is invisible. So, take comfort that not everyone will rush to Raleigh despite its persistent presence at or near the top of all these polls.
On a similar note, I have to say that I like Raleigh more and more as it grows and matures. I like the fact that there are more options in living, more diversity in its population, more accesibility in transit, better dining and entertainment, etc. I remember when my family moved to Raleigh in 1974. It wasn't the good ole days to me. You couldn't drive to the beach on an Interstate...heck, you couldn't even leave Raleigh on an Interstate. The airport was a complete joke and the destinations it served were very limited. The entertainment options outside of country clubs were few. Downtown was slowly dying of abandonment. The Angus Barn was practically the only good restaurant in town. People smoked everywhere including the mall and the grocery store. Public school performance wasn't nearly as good as today. I wouldn't trade what Raleigh is today for 1974 at all. I also wouldn't shut off the progress it continues to make in order to freeze it in time now.
I am from the DC area, and I can tell you without question I would NEVER live there again. Probably THE worst quality of life one could imagine - crime, traffic, stress, bad weather, high cost of living....this lists' credibility is completely out of the window.
I am from the DC area, and I can tell you without question I would NEVER live there again. Probably THE worst quality of life one could imagine - crime, traffic, stress, bad weather, high cost of living....this lists' credibility is completely out of the window.
Totally agree. It is the one place I would never live again. I would go back to NY before DC.
I stay in Crystal City (DC) during the week. It's fun but Raleigh is a MUCH better 'home'.
The more people that move here the better to a point. Raleigh planners seem to be doing a great job of expanding roads and taking care of infrastructure as needed (reference 540 ring, Louisburg (401) expansion, etc.).
I like how we are 15 minutes from downtown Raleigh and 5 minutes from a rural strawberry picking farm on the NE side. It takes me 22 minutes to get to the airport - going the speed limit. Air quality is good and it's extremely quiet during the day and at night. Raleigh has lots of good things going for it that will only help push up our home values as it becomes more and more known as a good place to buy and raise a family. Which means the people that complain about it getting too big can just sell their homes, make a huge profit, and move to a smaller city somewhere else and buy with cash. Just don't let the door hit you on the way out.
The lemmings will now come, find no work, and march off into the cesspools to drown.
Can we sue these media outlets for impact fees to support the influx of fools?
Saturnfan, IIRC, you're from somewhere else, so where do you get off?
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