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The people who moved this way from your company are probably people who aren't trying to climb or who had some other concerns that made the East Coast more desirable.
Spot on. In SV there's always the chance (and the hope) that you'll make it really big or at least continue to climb steadily upward, and there are so many companies competing for talent that the expectation is that you can ascend whether it's at your current employer or by leveraging your skills to jump ship. You come here and you've ceded that other concerns are more important to you.
As a counter-anecdote, I myself am senior at a top Bay Area tech company. We actually have a location in RTP. For the life of me, I couldn't find anyone at HQ back in the Bay Area who even knows that our NC location exists, much less understand why I'd ever want to live in NC. A year after relocating back here, I still get, "so you're working remotely right?"
There is a long way to go before this place is even a blip on the radar of most Cali tech people's minds as somewhere desirable or attractive to move. The culture of Silicon Valley being the end-all, be-all center of the universe is extremely pervasive, almost cultish. But it works for them and there's nothing like it.
I think there's a subtext to something you said: "couples who are employees . . . who would jump at the chance to move . . . for the kids to grow up" aka people who prioritize family. Mentioning family is pretty anathema to the Bay Area 25/8 work "drink the Kool Aid" ethos. Family is something that never crosses your lips if you're to be viewed as "all in" with the [amazing/disruptive/game-changing/fill-in-the-blank] greatness that all Bay Area tech companies think they are. The response you'd get is well what does the Bay Area not already get you - some of the best public schools in the nation, safe suburbia, nannies and daycare everywhere for outsourcing a lot of the child-rearing hassles while you make it big, etc.
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So spot on. I have said here before there is a snobbishness towards this area by people on the west coast especially now that we have a wanna be dictator for a president and this state voted for him. With that said Apple is already in the suburbs and it's conceivable they would open an office of some kind here. The fact Tim Cook is from the south and went to school here only helps. I am wondering why the news on this went totally silent.
Spot on to your spot on, as it's the same for at least companies where here is a satellite for places where home base is say, in NYC. At least in my experience so far.
One doesn't need to know him personally to know he has a fondness for the area. He has said so himself in talks and interviews a good many times.
Meh, he's a smart, politically astute person who's not going to trash somewhere if he's asked about it. I don't believe that the fact he went to graduate school in Durham will have any bearing on where Apple locates this project.
He didn’t just go to grad school at Duke. He did that while spending over a decade working at IBM in RTP. It obviously doesn’t make it a lock they’ll come here, but the familiarity he has with the area likely doesn’t hurt.
Austin has Dell, Apple, Oracle, EA, Facebook, VMWare, eBay, Google. Which sounds more relevant to 2018 if you’re looking for computing talent?
Say what you want about the chances of Apple coming here, but if you are going to cite Dell Computers at the beginning of your list of cool, relevant companies in 2018, I just don’t know what to tell you. Actually I do know what to tell you. It instantly means anything else you say should be taken with a block of salt.
Meh, he's a smart, politically astute person who's not going to trash somewhere if he's asked about it. I don't believe that the fact he went to graduate school in Durham will have any bearing on where Apple locates this project.
Not what I said. Look, if he loathed the area, he’d not have had time or inclination to work here or visit it since he graduated. I’m not saying he wants to move here again or it’s his favorite vacation spot.
I’m just saying he’s a gay man born and raised in the South who chose to attend a Southern university and who has lived and worked here for a good chunk of his adult life. And he also seems to genuinely like the area.
Has maybe a minimal impact, at best, on the sites he’d prefer.
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He didn’t just go to grad school at Duke. He did that while spending over a decade working at IBM in RTP. It obviously doesn’t make it a lock they’ll come here, but the familiarity he has with the area likely doesn’t hurt.
Yeah, that’s my general perspective. If he experienced a good many positive things here and he knows his way around, these are influential factors.
Not deciding factors, for sure, but they have to have some sort of impact.
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Say what you want about the chances of Apple coming here, but if you are going to cite Dell Computers at the beginning of your list of cool, relevant companies in 2018, I just don’t know what to tell you. Actually I do know what to tell you. It instantly means anything else you say should be taken with a block of salt.
For those still in doubt, Apple is indeed coming here. My builder's warranty guy confirmed he is building a house for an apple exec in North Raleigh.
Location of campus most likely to be in RTP on Davis Drive.
For those still in doubt, Apple is indeed coming here. My builder's warranty guy confirmed he is building a house for an apple exec in North Raleigh.
Location of campus most likely to be in RTP on Davis Drive.
Great news. They must have plans to be up and running quickly if he's building a house already.
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