Granite Dells Area - Very High Radon Levels (buying a home, buying)

[DellNec]

Originally Posted by BriansPerspective

They are not required to inform the client, but it's good business to do so.

Brian, do you know of any Realtors that inform buyers of the radon threat in the Granite Dells area?

In regards to my other 2 questions. Is there anyone here
on the forum that lives in the Granite Dells area or the Groom Creek area of Prescott. If so, have you tested for Radon?

How about other areas in Prescott, have you tested for Radon Gas in your home?

[kdog]

Originally Posted by DellNec

radon gas aggravates asthma sufferers.

I'm calling BS on that one. Got a credible reference to prove me wrong?

By credible, I mean one that isn't using scare tactics to sell you something. A medical study or a government website, please.

[DellNec]

Originally Posted by kdog

I'm calling BS on that one. Got a credible reference to prove me wrong?

By credible, I mean one that isn't using scare tactics to sell you something. A medical study or a government website, please.

Sure, how about the US Department of Health:

HHS - Office of the Surgeon General, Surgeon General Releases National Health Advisory On Radon


How about the National Enviromental Health Association:

NEHA - Radon/IAQ

[kdog]

Originally Posted by DellNec

Sure, how about the US Department of Health:

HHS - Office of the Surgeon General, Surgeon General Releases National Health Advisory On Radon


How about the National Enviromental Health Association:

NEHA - Radon/IAQ

Wrong. Neither link says anything about radon gas aggravating asthma. If you disagree, cut/paste the exact text to which you refer so we can see.

[BriansPerspective]

Originally Posted by Kimballette

Radon in Arizona

State Radon Contacts: Arizona | Radon | US EPA

EPA Map of Radon Zones | Radon | US EPA

Thanks for the links. Unfortunately, the Arizona map is not exactly that informative:


Orange = Zone 2 counties have a predicted average indoor radon screening level between 2 and 4 pCi/L (orange zones), "Moderate Potential"

[BriansPerspective]

Originally Posted by DellNec

Brian, do you know of any Realtors that inform buyers of the radon threat in the Granite Dells area?

I don't have the foggiest idea who informs their buyers about radon in the granite dells. If we had a buyer looking in an area with mountains of granite, we would broach the topic. Nevertheless, I personally do not think it's that big of an issue. As long as your house and crawl space aren't sealed tight and you get some air circulation in the house, there's not an issue. If you own a house in the granite dells and you have a sealed basement, then you might need to be concerned. Look at what the report says about the 'highest level of radon ever measured indoors': "...venting the subfloor space to the outside with a 1.25inch pipe reduced indoor-radon levels to
less than 5 pCi/l."

If someone is concerned, they should have their home tested.

[Kimballette]

Originally Posted by BriansPerspective

Thanks for the links. Unfortunately, the Arizona map is not exactly that informative:


Orange = Zone 2 counties have a predicted average indoor radon screening level between 2 and 4 pCi/L (orange zones), "Moderate Potential"

Yes, I understand. My point was that as far as the EPA is concerned, the entire state of AZ is considered to be at moderate risk, as opposed to other areas of the country.

[DellNec]

Originally Posted by BriansPerspective

I don't have the foggiest idea who informs their buyers about radon in the granite dells.

..... I personally do not think it's that big of an issue.

This is not directed at YOU, per se, but that does not make sense to me. Realtors spend hundreds of hours researching the local market and search the MLS for countless hours in order to make a sale to a potential buyer. Yet, when it comes to researching the area and the possible health hazards in the area they are selling RE, they will not spend 5 minutes researching the issues. That is why they have such a bad reputation and people throw them in the same sales category as used car salesmen.

As far as it, not being an issue, that is easy to say when you and your family are not being subjected to a carcinogen that is the #1 cause of lung cancer in non-smokers.

This goes back to what one top Realtor told me, in order to be a profitable RE Agent you never, ever, say anything negative about a property.

How difficult would it be for the Realtors in Prescott that when showing property in and near Granite Dells and Groom Creek, the potential buyer should be notified of the AZGS report stating that over 60% of the homes in that area have high radon level that are higher than allowed by the EPA. A simple disclosure. Yet, that will NOT happen and we all know why.

[DellNec]

Originally Posted by Kimballette

Yes, I understand. My point was that as far as the EPA is concerned, the entire state of AZ is considered to be at moderate risk, as opposed to other areas of the country.

Overall, yes, that is true but AZ has "hot spot" areas (as described in the AZGS report). One of those hot spots in Granite Dells and Groom Creek, those areas that have high amounts of uranium.

While AZ may not be as bad as Pennsylvania, living in the Granite Dells poses a health risk if one does not test for radon and seek the proper steps to remove the radon from the home.

[BriansPerspective]

Originally Posted by DellNec

This is not directed at YOU, per se, but that does not make sense to me. Realtors spend hundreds of hours researching the local market and search the MLS for countless hours in order to make a sale to a potential buyer. Yet, when it comes to researching the area and the possible health hazards in the area they are selling RE, they will not spend 5 minutes researching the issues. That is why they have such a bad reputation and people throw them in the same sales category as used car salesmen.

A realor's job is not to discover every possible reason why a buyer might not want to buy a property. If a buyer expresses a concern about something, such as radon, then the realtor (and the buyer) should do some investigating.

Originally Posted by DellNec

As far as it, not being an issue, that is easy to say when you and your family are not being subjected to a carcinogen that is the #1 cause of lung cancer in non-smokers.

I happen to like the granite dells and would be happy to live there. I would just make sure that our house had some ventilation.

Originally Posted by DellNec

This goes back to what one top Realtor told me, in order to be a profitable RE Agent you never, ever, say anything negative about a property.

That is 100% grade-A BS. We happen to be very profitable and we say all kinds of negative things about properties. Our job is to give our buyers some grounding. Buyers can be very excited to the point of overlooking things. Sometimes they need a knowledgable third party to point out things that the buyers might overloook in their excitement.

Originally Posted by DellNec

How difficult would it be for the Realtors in Prescott that when showing property in and near Granite Dells and Groom Creek, the potential buyer should be notified of the AZGS report stating that over 60% of the homes in that area have high radon level that are higher than allowed by the EPA. A simple disclosure. Yet, that will NOT happen and we all know why.

It would not be difficult, but the fact of the matter is that some people don't care. When buyers express concern over something, then a realtor should discuss that concern. The realtor does not need to point out every random perceived negative about a property and an area. Take your harping on level one trauma centers. Most people could care less. I'm not going to bother every buyer with the fact that Prescott does not have a level one trauma center. If they ask, I will gladly tell them. I'm not hiding anything, I'm simply tailoring my discussions to buyers' interests. I had one buyer who was concerned about high voltage power lines. I went to the county GIS and had them print a special map for me that shows the high-voltage power lines so that we could avoid those areas. I'm not going to tell every future buyer that a certain house is near a high voltage power line, because most people don't care about it.