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Old 04-21-2010, 06:22 AM
 
Location: nj
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I'm glad he wasn't hurt. I always think of him as Kumar, even when he was on House. I picture him buying a bag of weed and getting robbed by the dealer. Oh and it happened on 420! Coincidence? Yeah probably.
I think of him as Kumar also , LMAO .
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Old 04-21-2010, 07:04 AM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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Like the right to have a gun helped the girl in Ballston who was beaten, kidnapped, raped, and left for dead near Quantico.
It sure helped these folks in Virginia...

VA :The Armed Citizen (http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/category/va/ - broken link)
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Old 04-21-2010, 07:08 AM
 
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Explain the reasoning behind such a ridiculous statement.
You're expecting a repug to REASON..they never have , never will, just can't do it...as the OP has proven....
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:17 AM
 
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Let's do the math:

D.C. is 93% black.

98% of those who voted in D.C. voted for Obama.

Odds are fairly high that the guy who robbed him was so high on crack that he wouldn't have been able to tell the difference between George Bush and 2Pac. Political issues make no difference.
Sorry to have to tell you, but you failed math.
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Old 04-21-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: DC
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It sure helped these folks in Virginia...

VA :The Armed Citizen (http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/category/va/ - broken link)
I was responding to the insinuation that were there not a gun ban, Kumar (sorry, can't help it) would've shot his attacker and defended himself. I also used the example because the OP lives in Arlington, so it's "close to home".

Personally, if you live in DC and think that the gun ban keeps guns out of the hands of criminals, I think you're naive, or blind or something. Whether making guns freely available in DC would create a better or worse situation, I don't have any way of knowing. However, I'll admit that I'd feel a lot better if I could carry some pepper spray or a Taser.
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:05 AM
 
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I was responding to the insinuation that were there not a gun ban, Kumar (sorry, can't help it) would've shot his attacker and defended himself. I also used the example because the OP lives in Arlington, so it's "close to home".

Personally, if you live in DC and think that the gun ban keeps guns out of the hands of criminals, I think you're naive, or blind or something. Whether making guns freely available in DC would create a better or worse situation, I don't have any way of knowing. However, I'll admit that I'd feel a lot better if I could carry some pepper spray or a Taser.
Why would you feel safer? The guy lost his wallet and cell phone, but was unharmed. Do you think that if he had pepper sprayed the robber that the guy wouldn't have shot him? Naive is the belief that having a weapon does anything but escalate the danger of the situation.
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:30 AM
 
Location: DC
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Why would you feel safer? The guy lost his wallet and cell phone, but was unharmed. Do you think that if he had pepper sprayed the robber that the guy wouldn't have shot him? Naive is the belief that having a weapon does anything but escalate the danger of the situation.
Look, I'm not stupid. If someone has a gun in your face you don't go fumbling for pepper spray, you throw your bag and run. I also realize that the effect of having something like pepper/bear spray would be 98% psychological. It's the same reason why I would like to take some sort of self defense class, to give me the feeling that I can somewhat take care of myself.

My problem is that you don't know that the guy you're faced with is happy just taking your things and going away. The kids who stabbed someone to death down the block, or attacked the man in my parking lot weren't satisfied with a wallet. Nor was the Marine who attacked and raped the woman in Arlington (yes, being a woman I actually do concern myself with the possibility of a rape). I'm talking about the situation where you're facing physical harm. I figure that if I'm going down I'm at least not going to make it easy. In the meantime, yes, it makes me feel better.

Not to mention, I consider a gun and pepper spray to be completely separate classes of weapon. If I accidentally get myself with some pepper spray, it's a bad day. If I accidentally shoot myself in the face....I'd say that's worse.
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Why would you feel safer? The guy lost his wallet and cell phone, but was unharmed. Do you think that if he had pepper sprayed the robber that the guy wouldn't have shot him? Naive is the belief that having a weapon does anything but escalate the danger of the situation.
I remember not too long ago here in DC, people would get murdered (shot on the street) for their shoes and coats.
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Arm the public and you will not see this stuff. The bad guys who are always carrying a weapon, won't know who is packing heat.

Since it is a second amendment right to own a firearm, unless convicted of a crime, our government should make it mandatory that everyone in America receive gun safety and shooting training continuous yearly until they are 18 years old.
Education goes a long way when owning a deadly weapon.

Not just those buying weapons, but everyone.
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:21 PM
 
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Look, I'm not stupid. If someone has a gun in your face you don't go fumbling for pepper spray, you throw your bag and run. I also realize that the effect of having something like pepper/bear spray would be 98% psychological. It's the same reason why I would like to take some sort of self defense class, to give me the feeling that I can somewhat take care of myself.

My problem is that you don't know that the guy you're faced with is happy just taking your things and going away. The kids who stabbed someone to death down the block, or attacked the man in my parking lot weren't satisfied with a wallet. Nor was the Marine who attacked and raped the woman in Arlington (yes, being a woman I actually do concern myself with the possibility of a rape). I'm talking about the situation where you're facing physical harm. I figure that if I'm going down I'm at least not going to make it easy. In the meantime, yes, it makes me feel better.

Not to mention, I consider a gun and pepper spray to be completely separate classes of weapon. If I accidentally get myself with some pepper spray, it's a bad day. If I accidentally shoot myself in the face....I'd say that's worse.
Honestly, you are. You're reacting out of fear based upon sensationalized reports in the press. Getting a gun is just one more thing for a thief to take way from you and a real good reason for him to cap your ass in the process. If you run up against an armed Marine, you don't have much of a chance regardless of what you are packing.

90% of people who are armed are more a danger to themselves than anyone else. If you run into a situation where you are threatened, scream and run away.
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