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The first post stated that they don't know what is in the bill because it is so big then all the next posts state all the horror stories about what is going to happen because of the bill.
I think Obama has it all figured out that by 1214 he will already be elected to his 2nd term before we all figure out what was REALLY in the bill!
That is if we haven't all starved to death.
You many not realize it, but you are defending government subsidies in this case, not me. Apparently the companies got addicted to Bush's hand-outs. These hand-outs need to be removed.
Finn, I did a bit of reading on this to understand it better and this part of the 2003 Prescription Drug Modernization Act was a good business move because it was a lower cost to the government to give companies credit than take on millions of new medicare patients at a higher cost.
But the 2003 bill itself I was totally against and the more I read about it the worse it actually was. Right after the bill passed many government people, including one Congressman quit the government and got jobs in the medical industry..government's revolving door
Thanks but I was wathing FOX last night and all I could so was roll my eyes at the way the twisted facts and misinformed the public once again about the added cost to caterpillar and ATT and other companies who have in the past received HUGE government benefits to run their HC and retirement plans, and now with the bill they are gone.
Another Obama apologist who doesn't get that the government was SAVING money by incentivizing employer-provided retiree coverage instead of having to pay the FULL COST of those millions of seniors on Medicare.
Which will cost the government MUCH more. Apparently, that's what Obama and the Dems wanted...
I think there is a bigger picture here..to completely cut health benefits from employment. Get everyone on a government plan over a period of time and then go single payer.
You can't do it all at once though since this is huge..got to get the pieces all lined up first. This is one piece.
The next piece happens in year 3 when these big companies can participate and move their employees to the government pool.
Then the taxpayer becomes fully responsible for any subsidies and the corporation has a small financial obligation to the government via "fees".
A medical device company in MA has already stated that the new taxes on their products will drive them overseas. A little presumptuos maybe
I heard dont know if its that same on but they make the device that actually saved Clintons life but they have a profit of 9 million a year and this bill will cost them 7 million a year.
They are very worried being able to continue to do research that helps them come up with life saving devices.
I want that company to be able to continue to do life saving research
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