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Old 03-14-2010, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Well, if the humans on this earth don't do something to effect a change in the direction, the insanity could very well stop.
We should all (including the Chinese) stop farting and breathing. This should help a little.

Or at least try not to snort, sneeze, speak, and fart all at once

And yes!!! Almost forgot. We should also stop using cocaine
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22081755/

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Old 03-15-2010, 04:34 AM
 
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Epic fail.

Let's talk about the global climate, which is impossible for man to "change".

Cloud seeding? You mean weather?
Ummm... changing the clouds of course has an impact - it alters patterns locally that ripple out from there. I'm not saying it has anything to do with "climate change" as it's conventionally known, but it does alter the climate's course from what it otherwise would have been. Thus, proving that humans can "alter" the climate.

But, to your larger point, please provide evidence for your claim that humans cannot alter the climate.

Those pesky scientists have come up with a LOT of evidence - not only in the atmosphere but also in observing native ranges of many plants and animals shifting to adjust to the warming temperatures and in observing geology and various other disciplines - that ALL point to warming. When controlled for natural variance, the impact of humans becomes rather evident. The only question is how much.

But - you claim we can't change the climate, even though we unequivocally have changed the land and the waters. I guess there's a magic forcefield preventing us from influence the air...
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Old 03-15-2010, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Will the insanity ever stop?
Nope. With each passing day and more evidence piling up against them, the insane will only continue to believe even more.

It's like a train wreck to those of us that believe in facts. Sad and tragic, but we're inclined to watch it all unfold.
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Old 03-15-2010, 04:53 AM
 
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Let's ignore intelligent people, experts in their fields mind you, because we are paranoid about their motivations. Let's live in fear of others dispelling the truth and keep our minds closed. They just want to take our freedoms or hate that we have them, like the terrorists do. LOL!

Humanity is the worst thing that ever happened to this planet. It is the most destructive species and has divorced itself from nature in almost every way imaginable. No one here has any proof that humans don't impact the weather of the planet. Someone shot that denial down with the science of cloud seeding. You want another example? How about the unanticipated cloud seeding that occurs when the winds blow from the SW across Gary Indiana and take the pollutants from the steel mills over Lake Michigan to form clouds and precipitation over in adjoining Michigan? I guess that's just natural, huh? Oh, NO, mankind is but a puny dot on a big planet and nothing it does can affect something as big as the weather. No-ooh. The atmosphere, closed system that it is, would be analogous to the skin of an apple if the earth were that size. And yet, it's still too big for us to have any effect on. Yeah, let's keep our minds closed, whip out our (what is it? genetic and why is it so partisan?) paranoia about our fellow man and continue to do....NOTHING. Let's continue to think that if the planet is so big and we are so small, then we don't need to hold ourselves accountable. Now I get why the anti-global warming crowd continues to chirp: Ignorance is bliss.

Earth #1. Human beings, not so much.

Above is exhibit A of how to use hyperbole to perpetuate a lie (man caused global warming) based on fearmongering and ignorance.

Those of us who think for ourselves are not buying Gore bought partisan scientists with an agenda and their garbage
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Old 03-15-2010, 05:22 AM
 
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This is for both sides...If and when the polar ice caps melt, they'll be 25K polarbears producing carbon footprints. The eskimos will emit less carbon while heating their homes. Lastly tankers will have new shipping routes and will save tons of fuel...
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Old 03-15-2010, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Above is exhibit A of how to use hyperbole to perpetuate a lie (man caused global warming) based on fearmongering and ignorance.

Those of us who think for ourselves are not buying Gore bought partisan scientists with an agenda and their garbage
"think for ourselves" = deny science
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Old 03-15-2010, 05:45 AM
 
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Humanity is the worst thing that ever happened to this planet. It is the most destructive species and has divorced itself from nature in almost every way imaginable.
Your post is a perfect example of the nutcase radical enviro-religion where the planet is God and anything we do that the eco-freako crowd does not approve of is blasphemy and worthy of hateful condemnation of the entire human race as unworthy of existing on their planet God. It is the kind of thinking that your post displays that inclines environuts to murder their children and then kill themselves to save God planet. It is clearly a diseased way of thinking and I can only hope that more people start waking up to how deluded and insane the radical environuts have become.

Humans are great. Mother nature is far more destructive than humans could ever hope to be in their wildest dreams. But don't let reality cloud your deluded thinking.
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:19 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Let's ignore intelligent people, experts in their fields mind you, because we are paranoid about their motivations. Let's live in fear of others dispelling the truth and keep our minds closed. They just want to take our freedoms or hate that we have them, like the terrorists do. LOL!

Humanity is the worst thing that ever happened to this planet. It is the most destructive species and has divorced itself from nature in almost every way imaginable. No one here has any proof that humans don't impact the weather of the planet. Someone shot that denial down with the science of cloud seeding. You want another example? How about the unanticipated cloud seeding that occurs when the winds blow from the SW across Gary Indiana and take the pollutants from the steel mills over Lake Michigan to form clouds and precipitation over in adjoining Michigan? I guess that's just natural, huh? Oh, NO, mankind is but a puny dot on a big planet and nothing it does can affect something as big as the weather. No-ooh. The atmosphere, closed system that it is, would be analogous to the skin of an apple if the earth were that size. And yet, it's still too big for us to have any effect on. Yeah, let's keep our minds closed, whip out our (what is it? genetic and why is it so partisan?) paranoia about our fellow man and continue to do....NOTHING. Let's continue to think that if the planet is so big and we are so small, then we don't need to hold ourselves accountable. Now I get why the anti-global warming crowd continues to chirp: Ignorance is bliss.

Earth #1. Human beings, not so much.

what about the experts in their field that have said before that global warming is nothing but hogwash.

also, if you want true science to come out in favorof your point of view, then take away all the money from goverment and see if you get the same results.

as far as humanity being the worst thing for the planet earth. well, for you I would say the enviromentalism is a religion and all religion is supposed to be removed from the goverment. after all, if we cant have christians and christanity in our goverment, then there is no reason to have the religion of enviromatalism in our goverment either.
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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what about the experts in their field that have said before that global warming is nothing but hogwash.

Who are these "experts", and why are they a tiny minority of scientists?

If 95% of the scientific community says that climate change is influenced by mankind, what is it about the 5% that you find more convincing?
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Old 03-15-2010, 04:23 PM
 
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Who are these "experts", and why are they a tiny minority of scientists?

If 95% of the scientific community says that climate change is influenced by mankind, what is it about the 5% that you find more convincing?
The liberal media and democrats are trying to create the illusion that 95% buy into the IPCC garbage.

All I can say is prove it.
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