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View Poll Results: Hangun open carry - In favour or against..?
IN FAVOUR 57 56.44%
IN FAVOUR,CONDITIONALLY 23 22.77%
AGAINST 21 20.79%
Voters: 101. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-05-2010, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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I live in a rural area and occasionally see people carry openly. I've done it a couple of times myself when it was convenient because I was out shooting earlier and didn't feel like unholstering.

But, I imagine most people who carry openly do it mainly to increase awareness that it's permitted under state law--not because they feel it's a defensive improvement over concealed carry (although I guess their draw would be faster).

I don't see anything wrong with it as long as the gun is safely holstered. I don't feel the slightest unease around people open carrying. To each his own.
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:20 AM
 
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Any kind of "carry" with untrained, unconditioned civilians is a recipe for disaster. As I've said elsewhere, I'm just waiting to read a story about some bar room brawl with a twist from an old western movie.

"You yellow belly Toyota driving pole cat talking trash about my Hummer? Thems fight'n words, you best be ready to draw!"

Civilians look at their Colt .45s like an extension of their sex organs. Experienced and conditioned LE officers, soldiers and marines look at their weapons as tools.
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:21 AM
 
Location: between Ath,GR & Mia,FL...
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Any kind of "carry" with untrained, unconditioned civilians is a recipe for disaster. As I've said elsewhere, I'm just waiting to read a story about some bar room brawl with a twist from an old western movie.

"You yellow belly Toyota driving pole cat talking trash about my Hummer? Thems fight'n words, you best be ready to draw!"

Civilians look at their Colt .45s like an extension of their sex organs. Experienced and conditioned LE officers, soldiers and marines look at their weapons as tools.
Such an act will be very rare to occur,because the shooter will face either...a faster shooter or 25 years in prison to possible capital penalty...
Therefore,what will happen is the exact opposite...
People will be afraid of retaliation & hold their temper...
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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We have carry permits,no problems.
Taking my class this year. I bought a new .45 auto and wanted to take my test with that instead of my revolver so I can have a licence to carry both without any issues. good times ahead.

I'm gonna dress like Billy the Kid after I get my licence.
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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Any kind of "carry" with untrained, unconditioned civilians is a recipe for disaster.
How many hours of handgun training do you suppose the average law enforcement officer or average solider receives?

How many hours have you trained with a pistol?

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Civilians look at their Colt .45s like an extension of their sex organs. Experienced and conditioned LE officers, soldiers and marines look at their weapons as tools.
logical fallacy: false dichotomy
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:27 AM
 
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Such an act will be very rare to occur,because the shooter will face either...a faster shooter or 25 years in prison to possible capital penalty...
Therefore,what will happen is the exact opposite...
People will be afraid of retaliation & hold their temper...
Ego will conquer common sense every time. Your people skills suck bad.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:05 PM
 
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"In my state leaning a loaded long gun against a car is a Royal Sin as it should be." Why?

As for the question. Imagine you are armed with a pistol in an regular waist holster (cowboy style), the gun is visible. You are in a convienient store. Some punk comes in with the intent to rob. He sees you. Do you think he will think twice before attempting to rob.

Think again. You have a concealed gun. He doesn't see it. He doesn't know you are carrying. Will he attempt to rob?

Which is the better deterant?

The police were their guns exposed because it is a deterant.

This "The police were their guns exposed because it is a deterant" I don't agree with. I am pro police, but don't see any part of deterant in police open carry. It is just handier to carry open for them most of the time, but also more dangerous, since even the police can be disarmed by a bad guy.

It is probably a safe bet that police also carry another gun, maybe two you can't see. i do this commonly any time I leave the property, and you would not see either......I hope.

I live rural, and have lived very rural, and so far as I can tell wackos go everywhere.

Once I lived in the center of a volcanic ring d i k e (don't know why that gets nannied but it does.)

Some wacko came pounding on my door because he wanted keys to a logging company gate. I never worked with that outfit, so never had any key. The wacko became infuriated. I tried to tell him there was no road a skidder could take and he drove a Ford Escort! He refused to understand there was no road going to where he wanted to go and that I didn't have any key. He demanded to use my phone to call the cops on me, and it ended right there, with my .45 up his nose.

He got the choice to drive away, or be carried away, either way he was going away. He I allowed him inside to call the cop, there was no telling what else this wackp would have pulled, and had the cops even come in the first place it would have taken them no less that the same 1/2 hour it took me to go the 6 miles on rough roads.

progressivelib, ain'tch you a funny one.... yer more than welcome to come tawkin' tell me all about how you 'feel', but I have high doubts you can change my mind at this point. I had far better luck tawkin to the guy who came up with Amber Alert, who last I knew, was convinced had he had a gun and listened to his daughter better, she would probably been alive today. He was headed to a gun store too and was seeking a nice .38/.357. I hope he got a nice one too. It would be ashamed if he lost the rest of his family to some violent offender, out on paroll for the 5th or 6th time.

You like me have the Right to own a firearm, and since you choose not too, I think you should pay a tax of no less than 500 dollars each year for the privilege to go un-armed.
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Old 03-05-2010, 02:26 PM
 
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dude, I dont know what your smoking but you voted IN FAVOUR of open carry. I carry a pistol and a knife with me always. Im not paranoid, Im confident.
I'm confident too.

Confident some bad guy is going to kick your butt, take your gun and your knife.
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Old 03-05-2010, 02:35 PM
 
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How many hours of handgun training do you suppose the average law enforcement officer or average solider receives?

How many hours have you trained with a pistol?



logical fallacy: false dichotomy
Soldiers, marines, police are supervised! Who's supervising civilians?
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Old 03-05-2010, 03:49 PM
 
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too many potential horror stories with open carry.

Nay...
That's the problem with using "potential" as reasoning. It requires no evidence of its claim to make a conclusion.

Potentially a person could do anything and a gun is the least of tools to which that horror could be committed.
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