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No, that's EXACTLY why it's preferred - when you send an electrical current through the anus & genitalia, it keeps the fur intact. AND it's cheaper than gas - which, as the above poster stated, isn't all that humane itself.
Although you may not be aware of it, U.S. fur producers use electrocution often enough that states have actually had to make an effort to legally ban the practice.
No, there's a risk of fur damage with it.
States have banned it not because of it being commonly done but because of propaganda put out about it by animal rights groups convincing politicians they need to do something about it, even though it's a non-issue in reality.
If CO2 builds up slowly it is painful. A sudden, quick, high concentration dose of it will take an animal out instantly.
Are you sure? Do you do this stuff yourself? The reason I ask is because I work with a few vivisectors. I really like them, to be clear, but if I dwell on their daily activities I'll cry. Any way, they use standard CO2 chambers. According to them, the animals suffocate for several minutes and die. Just as any of us would.
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CO would be a better method though.
It should be law. I don't know why CO2 would be used over CO. I'm guessing CO is more expensive.
Jaw Type
CARNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HERBIVORE: Expanded angle
OMNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HUMAN: Expanded angle
Jaw Joint Location
CARNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HERBIVORE: Above the plane of the molars
OMNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HUMAN: Above the plane of the molars
Jaw Motion
CARNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion
HERBIVORE: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
OMNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side
HUMAN: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
Major Jaw Muscles
CARNIVORE: Temporalis
HERBIVORE: Masseter and pterygoids
OMNIVORE: Temporalis
HUMAN: Masseter and pterygoids
Mouth Opening vs. Head Size
CARNIVORE: Large
HERBIVORE: Small
OMNIVORE: Large
HUMAN: Small
Teeth: Incisors
CARNIVORE: Short and pointed
HERBIVORE: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
OMNIVORE: Short and pointed
HUMAN: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
Teeth: Canines
CARNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HERBIVORE: Dull and short or long (for defense), or none
OMNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HUMAN: Short and blunted
Teeth: Molars
CARNIVORE: Sharp, jagged and blade shaped
HERBIVORE: Flattened with cusps vs complex surface
OMNIVORE: Sharp blades and/or flattened
HUMAN: Flattened with nodular cusps
Saliva
CARNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HERBIVORE: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
OMNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HUMAN: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
Stomach Type
CARNIVORE: Simple
HERBIVORE: Simple or multiple chambers
OMNIVORE: Simple
HUMAN: Simple
Stomach Acidity
CARNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HERBIVORE: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
OMNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HUMAN: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
Stomach Capacity
CARNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HERBIVORE: Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract
OMNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HUMAN: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract
Length of Small Intestine
CARNIVORE: 3 to 6 times body length
HERBIVORE: 10 to more than 12 times body length
OMNIVORE: 4 to 6 times body length
HUMAN: 10 to 11 times body length
Colon
CARNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HERBIVORE: Long, complex; may be sacculated
OMNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HUMAN: Long, sacculated
Liver
CARNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HERBIVORE: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
OMNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HUMAN: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
My step-dad is/was a furrier. He didn't kill the animals, tho. My mom's closet is filled with fur. None of this stuff crosses their minds. Given all of our technology, all of our privilege and resources, I just don't see the point of harming an animal for its fur. I also don't understand why people take issue with other nations using dogs and cats for their fur, but don't mind using minks.
Are you sure? Do you do this stuff yourself? The reason I ask is because I work with a few vivisectors. I really like them, to be clear, but if I dwell on their daily activities I'll cry. Any way, they use standard CO2 chambers. According to them, the animals suffocate for several minutes and die. Just as any of us would.
It should be law. I don't know why CO2 would be used over CO. I'm guessing CO is more expensive.
I've researched the subject. I know a vet too (or did, up in Northern VT, I'm in central VT right now), who does this stuff in a daily basis (but not on fur farms). I'm not sure what kind of chambers those people are using you know, sounds like they're slower, but is the animal awake throughout or asleep through it?
I can't imagine CO being more expensive than CO2, that wouldn't make sense.
My step-dad is/was a furrier. He didn't kill the animals, tho. My mom's closet is filled with fur. None of this stuff crosses their minds. Given all of our technology, all of our privilege and resources, I just don't see the point of harming an animal for its fur. I also don't understand why people take issue with other nations using dogs and cats for their fur, but don't mind using minks.
The synthetic alternatives really aren't terribly good for the environment.
I don't have an issue with animals being used by humans for various products or consumption. But, I do have an issue with how most are raised and killed. In my dream world, they would all be free range, not raised in pens or cages, and killed quickly and humanely. But, it would probably be difficult to meet demand in such a scenario.
I've researched the subject. I know a vet too (or did, up in Northern VT, I'm in central VT right now), who does this stuff in a daily basis (but not on fur farms). I'm not sure what kind of chambers those people are using you know, sounds like they're slower, but is the animal awake throughout or asleep through it?
The animals are awake. I wish they were put to sleep first. They're not. I have to be careful when prodding, tho. I'm not even given clearance to access their facilities. OTOH, my co is in the lead for AW treatment to boot, and it's still subpar imo.
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I can't imagine CO being more expensive than CO2, that wouldn't make sense.
Is it just that suffering isn't dawning on them? I don't know. I've been trying to figure out a way to push another method, but I don't know how to go about it. Any way, from what I understand, CO would cause the animal to pass out first-painlessly, but don't quote me on that.
The synthetic alternatives really aren't terribly good for the environment.
Well, they're certainly not good for these animals. Surely, we're bright enough to come up with an alternative. I guess the only answer is to try to decrease demand. It's not as if these fur coats are produced, in the west at least, to keep the homeless from freezing to death in the north.
I don't have an issue with animals being used by humans for various products or consumption. But, I do have an issue with how most are raised and killed. In my dream world, they would all be free range, not raised in pens or cages, and killed quickly and humanely. But, it would probably be difficult to meet demand in such a scenario.
I'll agree with you, although not practical it is ideal.
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