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Old 11-10-2009, 09:24 AM
 
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If you are dumb enough to think the Insurance companies care about your health- then you will not 'understand Obamacare'.

If you realize the Insurance companies look upon your body and health as nothing but a means to a profit- then you will understand that reform will help you.
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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I don't thnik so' Liberals are crying that this is a waterdown version of what they wanted but it still was a very close vote. I teh senate it will be a much tougher fight.
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:27 AM
 
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Like they say, if you think health care is expensive now, wait until it's free. You ain't seen nothing yet.
That was something I learned a long time ago. If you earn something, you treat it with respect. When it is handed to you, it gets abused.
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:27 AM
 
Location: The Land Mass Between NOLA and Mobile, AL
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It only passed the House. It can still die in the Senate, and we can only hope that's the case.

Not that I'm opposed to reforms, but these "reforms" are so off the mark they're ridiculous. They just take a broken system and break it even further. Ordering people to buy insurance, under threat of fines and prison? What country do I live in again? The only thing that needed to be done was to expand Medicare and Medicaid coverage to the uninsured. Period, end of story. Tort reform, more portability, shopping across state lines, expanded MSAs -- all of that would have just been icing on the cake. Instead, we get a job-killing $1 trillion monstrosity. Even if this were a good idea, how do you justify a $1 trillion government program when the economy is in a deep recession and we're already drowning in our own national debt? And who thinks this will improve medical care? It'll be about as efficient as the Post Office.

Keep in mind, too, that we're fixing a system under which 85% of Americans HAVE health insurance. Having 15% of Americans uninsured is a terrible thing, but it didn't require a massive overhaul of the entire system. And yes, I know, we all pay when uninsured people go to the ER and can't pay their bill. But I can guarantee you, paying for those bills will cost you a LOT less than the government plan will. Like they say, if you think health care is expensive now, wait until it's free. You ain't seen nothing yet.

By the way, 10% of Americans are unemployed. That's almost as bad as having 15% uninsured. Why don't we federalize employment? Then we can order everyone to get a job, and fine them or throw them in jail if they don't comply. Bingo! 100% employment!

This is the most insane thing I think I've ever seen, perhaps rivaled only by the Patriot Act.
Even though I don't agree with what this poster is saying about the health care bill as it was passed, he or she is absolutely right about the process. This bill still has to go to the Senate. Then it has to go to committee, where it will likely change--this reconciliation between the House version and the Senate version of the bill is where the real compromise happens. There is no way to really know if it will have a public option once it emerges from committee, which could be three months from now, or it could be longer. There is simply absolutely no way to tell what the bill will ultimately look like. Anyone can try to influence how the bill will eventually look by contacting his or her representative or senator, and that may or may not have an effect.

Given all of that, there is actually no real reason to panic today. We are only, and this is a generous accounting, about one third of the way through the process. Let's all take a deep breath, folks. This conversation is far from over. Again, be cool.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:03 AM
 
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You should've been panicking when your Lord Bush was busy completely destroying the country. Guess you were doing something constructive the last 8 years like sucking your thumb.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Funny how the left continues to hijack words.
More right wing projection of their actions onto the left.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:27 AM
 
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Is that what you guys are calling yourself nowadays.. rational?

Funny how the left continues to hijack words.
Funny how the right can always find a way to feel threatened and victimized.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Earth
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I believe people should fear health care for everyone over the fear of an unprovoked war (ex. Iraq).

I could be wrong, but where are priorities of absurdity?
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