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No. They flat out don't pay it. Look up effective corporate tax rates and you'll find that the US is one of the lower-tax countries among developed nations.
One minute you have SOME Republicans espousing we need a "free market" and then you have some of them claiming Obama isn't doing enough to stop the tide of unemployment.
If you like the free market, there is nothing wrong with the unemployment rate, it's simply the way things are right now.
So, Repubs, should Obama and Congress try to do something to lower the unemployment rate or should we just let the "free market" take care of things?
I think the confusion is that there are people on this forum that are anti-Obama so whether he does or doesn't do is "always" wrong and they will criticize... the liberals (even those in this forum and on this post) will say a bunch of rhetoric and attack repubs/conservatives but they too are just Obama-cheerleaders that love him so much and attack anyone who attacks him....
So what I am trying to say is that you shouldn't dismiss a criticism even though it may be ideologically motivated as worthless (even though some of them are).... you have to pick the good ones out of the bad ones... I think Obama is an alright guy... I don't like SOME of his policies and I see flaws in some of them... some people attack the policies because it came from Obama and some people defend because it came from Obama... so the question is... you can't have Obama-haters without exposing the Obama-lovers... which one is it? Requires thinking and critical evaluation... you can't be told how to think and what to know... you accept some facts and some opinions and formulate what "you" think is the best course of action...
Which also means there is no reconciling the Obama-haters and there is no reconciling with the Obama-lovers (and there is an abundance of those as well)... as I see it... for every Obama-hater post there are three Obama-lover posts... I take my battles where I think I am right...
One minute you have SOME Republicans espousing we need a "free market" and then you have some of them claiming Obama isn't doing enough to stop the tide of unemployment.
If you like the free market, there is nothing wrong with the unemployment rate, it's simply the way things are right now.
So, Repubs, should Obama and Congress try to do something to lower the unemployment rate or should we just let the "free market" take care of things?
They will do everything they can to change this subject....wait n see.
One minute you have SOME Republicans espousing we need a "free market" and then you have some of them claiming Obama isn't doing enough to stop the tide of unemployment.
If you like the free market, there is nothing wrong with the unemployment rate, it's simply the way things are right now.
So, Repubs, should Obama and Congress try to do something to lower the unemployment rate or should we just let the "free market" take care of things?
The issue for me is that he is doing things but it is the wrong things. He is trying to pass a health care bill that will raise taxes and will only send us further into debt. He is trying to create jobs but they are all government jobs, this country can not survive on just government jobs. One thing people don't like to hear is that when the rich spend us peons work. So giving them certain tax breaks will get them spending. Also speaking from a middle class stand point if I were to get a tax break/rebate I would buy, I think most would. When people have money they spend it, if you take it away they hold onto it.
I am not trying to compare Bush to Obama but even though many think Bush's tax cuts were for the rich that is not true. Just the capital gains tax being changed was a huge help to my family and I am not rich. What Bush did after 9/11 worked like him or not it worked. Give people money they will spend take it and they won't.
So after that long diatribe the bottom line is that I think he needs to do something just not what he has planned. Giving the free market a push is fine, trying to take it over is not.
The issue for me is that he is doing things but it is the wrong things. He is trying to pass a health care bill that will raise taxes and will only send us further into debt. He is trying to create jobs but they are all government jobs, this country can not survive on just government jobs. One thing people don't like to hear is that when the rich spend us peons work. So giving them certain tax breaks will get them spending. Also speaking from a middle class stand point if I were to get a tax break/rebate I would buy, I think most would. When people have money they spend it, if you take it away they hold onto it.
I am not trying to compare Bush to Obama but even though many think Bush's tax cuts were for the rich that is not true. Just the capital gains tax being changed was a huge help to my family and I am not rich. What Bush did after 9/11 worked like him or not it worked. Give people money they will spend take it and they won't.
So after that long diatribe the bottom line is that I think he needs to do something just not what he has planned. Giving the free market a push is fine, trying to take it over is not.
I'd spend if I was paid a higher wage. I'd also save more too.
Why wait all year for a tax cut when I can have a higher rate of pay?
your right stay out......send all our jobs to china, stop labor unions and let america fall on its ass because of huge corporate greed.
I will pose the question again. If you hate government I assume when your house burns down you wont call the fire dept, when a burglar comes to your house you wont call police, you will only use private school systems, you will maintain your own road system???? will you?
Those are the responsibility of the state. Not Obama. I'm not calling for anarchy. I'm calling for the government to do their damn job and stay out of the private market.
Yes...stop labor unions and let businesses fall on their ass. Stop bail outs. Let businesses fall on their ass. The corrupt and inept will go away and the best will thrive. It's a very simple concept and it's what made our country great.
It's amazing how stupid people are, that they don't see by allowing more and more government intervention, they're welcoming in socialism.
To let the "free market" take care of it would mean that the government would have to allow a free market to exist. It's not going to happen. We would have to abolish most of our immoral preferential law currently in place.
They could start by eliminating the Federal Reserve which controls and finances the entire government/business collusion.
Return to a Constitutional currency which is not monopolized by a private counterfeiting syndicate so that the American people could be free from the indirect theft by the elite bankers.
They then could abolish the 16th Amendment.
Next, they would need to eliminate the fictional business entities that have special rights not afforded to all Americans.
Next, they could abolish all laws which are not related to items enumerated in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.
Until these "little" steps are taken there is no chance at a free market fixing anything whatsoever.
I won't hold my breathe...
You are one Amendment short, we need to get rid of that Nursing Home in the Capitol Building. Repeal the 17th
Yes...stop labor unions and let businesses fall on their ass. Stop bail outs. Let businesses fall on their ass. The corrupt and inept will go away and the best will thrive. It's a very simple concept and it's what made our country great.
LOL. What contribution to greatness did you think the sweetheart land deals given by the government to railroads in order to open up the west actually made? What role in our greatness did the land-grant colleges play? Did the GI Bill or the interstate highway system make any difference? The White Fleet? The 14th Amendment?
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It's amazing how stupid people are, that they don't see by allowing more and more government intervention, they're welcoming in socialism.
It'd be helpful if some people realized how we got here in the first place.
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please stop throwing misinformation around.
