Just back from Denmark (gallon, drug, federal, income)
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For all of you who have written here enthralled with Denmark in particular and Europe generally, one thing that you fail to take into consideration is the extent to which that continent has been getting a free ride for over 50 years at U.S. expense. On the defense side we have been Europes's shield and that has drained our treasury. If these magnificent European societies had had to foot the bill for their own defense all these years their taxes would not only have been high, they would have been confiscatory. In the same way much of their health care, including technology and medicines, they owe to American ingenuity and investment. They are coasting on our dime. Europeans are so used to being taken care of that that they cannot even acknowledge their indebtedness to America. That's why I find their moral posturing nauseating.
what a load of crap.
with respect.
Let me debunk a couple of myths that your kind spread. Any money loaned by America to Britain, during WWII, was repaid with interest in 2006.
With regard to technology : Europe has been self sufficient regarding technology for decades.
German/Italian/French engineering has/is been world class.
Tell me agin who provided the technology to get your lot to the moon?
Werhner Von Braun ring any bells?
The article fails to mention the election of a Socialist goverment in Greece, for example.
From what I read on Greece's election the victory of the socialist candidate had much to do with the corruption of the incumbent candidate's adminstration. So it may be that Greeks were voting against the incumbent more than voting for the socialist.
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The entire EU structure is based upon Big State concept which will influence social policy, economic policy, military policy and civil policy.
Well we'll have to see how they deal with the effects of their coming population changes and how it will influence their social programs.
And most people would agree with you. But from what I have seen thus far, lower costs are not going to be a part of any healthcare reform.
That's because you cannot pass a bill in the US that makes the drug companies or hospitals or doctors sacrifice. The GOP allied with Conservative Democrats protect monied interest groups at all cost.
The best you can hope for is to pass the framework of system (the public option) that will provide for leveraging the buying power of government later on.
These companies know this and that's why they are opposing the plan.
Not making them suffer as much is why there is little cost saving measures in the bill that effect them directly.
From what I read on Greece's election the victory of the socialist candidate had much to do with the corruption of the incumbent candidate's adminstration. So it may be that Greeks were voting against the incumbent more than voting for the socialist.
Well we'll have to see how they deal with the effects of their coming population changes and how it will influence their social programs.
I wouldn't necessarily worry about the demographics : in the 1945-1955 period European demographics were in worse shape, and that was when
the idea of the European Economic Community was mooted and designed
(in 1957 Treaty of Rome).
The european model has worked for 70 years and will work going forward.
Another argument the right uses in the US to fool their voters is to claim if we make drug companies sacrifice for the sake of lowered health care costs we will stifle new drug developement.
Cause we all know only the US has the inovation and skill to make advanced types of drugs!
Another argument the right uses in the US to fool their voters is to claim if we make drug companies sacrifice for the sake of lowered health care costs we will stifle new drug developement.
Cause we all know only the US has the inovation and skill to make advanced types of drugs!
That's because you cannot pass a bill in the US that makes the drug companies or hospitals or doctors sacrifice. The GOP allied with Conservative Democrats protect monied interest groups at all cost.
The best you can hope for is to pass the framework of system (the public option) that will provide for leveraging the buying power of government later on.
These companies know this and that's why they are opposing the plan.
Not making them suffer as much is why there is little cost saving measures in the bill that effect them directly.
I guess you just described one of the drawbacks of Democracy, the word you used correctly to describe our system.
Gotta run before I am fired and have no health coverage.
True, Scandanavia is a virtual paradise and most of Western Europe is nicer than the US, but it is partially because Europe isn't a giant empire like the US. As long as we continue to believe that a nation of 300,000,000 can be governed by just a few hundred people, there's no way we'll ever have the quality of life they have in Scandanavia.
Copenhagen is a gorgeous city, did you get a chance to visit Helsignor Castle while you were there? Have you ever seen a place so free of trash and litter?
I have, the town I live in. Try moving out of the ghetto parts of the city if you don't like seeing so much trash and litter.
With regard to technology : Europe has been self sufficient regarding technology for decades.
German/Italian/French engineering has/is been world class.
Tell me agin who provided the technology to get your lot to the moon?
Werhner Von Braun ring any bells?
Europe doesn't owe any debt to America :
That will change when Iran nukes someone. Europe will be on our doorstep crying for help.
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