Sub Disaster Puts Spotlight on Another Extreme Venture: Space Tourism (drugs, Obama)
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Just remember, corporations are not people. So the government should always be used to control corporations. Not corporations controlling government, which is what we have right now.
No. Government and corporations should both stay in their own lanes.
The covid response by the government was a disaster. So are subs and space ships that implode or explode. Lets keep it on topic. I hate when these threads get closed because two people go on and on about nothing.
Governments certify these sorts of vessels. The ones certified have not imploded like this one. So perhaps they know what they are doing. To say the gov't screwed up on covid so therefore they have no cred regarding subs is ludicrous.
Not really. Both Covid and Subs are very complex. And it's not exactly a secret that the government repeatedly lied to the people, falsified statistics and literally none of what they said came true. THAT goes to their credibility. The fact that none of the people involved in perpetrating this fraud on the American People were fired or prosecuted further goes to their credibility or lack thereof. It's not a stretch to say if the government lied on the former, they would lie on the latter.
Their inability to deliver on basic services like passports or mail does hurt their credibility regarding subs however (both the sandwich and the machine)
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I think people have the right to hop on board whatever they want. There is more than enough info online to make an informed decision. The little bit I looked into to me, proved you have to be crazy to go on this guys sub. But I could care less about the Titanic. No desire to see it up close. Some people its the most important thing and they are fine with the risk. Let them at it.
Agreed. The only role the government has here is to ensure that an uncertified sub is not being falsely advertised as certified.
Government regulations will only make it dumber. You should know the risks if you want to travel to space or the oceans. Many people have gone on Space tourism and have gotten to see the curvature of the Earth and where the space begins, the "sky" blackens. I think that is an amazing trip. If you want to take the risk, go ahead.
Maybe these pioneers will improve space travel and it will also become cheaper for others.
Making up crazy rules for space travel is not necessary because you don't NEED to got to space. But they better make sure they are following the rules for my Boeing 737 or Airbus A320 because I do need to travel around across the Earth.
Not really. Both Covid and Subs are very complex. And it's not exactly a secret that the government repeatedly lied to the people, falsified statistics and literally none of what they said came true. THAT goes to their credibility.
Like I said the gov't screwed up on covid. And they screw up on lots of things. I have no problem with them certifying vessels. But let people decide if it matters or not. Don't make it. Its not certified so you cannot do the dive.
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Plus, their inability to deliver on basic services like passports or mail does hurt their credibility regarding subs however (both the sandwich and the machine)
Agreed. The only role the government has here is to ensure that an uncertified sub is not being falsely advertised as certified.
I sell online. I know how badly USPS can mess things up. I agree with you. If a sub says its certified it needs to be. If its not buyer beware. Let people decide. I posted in the original sub forum the story done by CBS Sunday morning who sent a reporter to the sub. It seemed like the sub was poorly put together. They kind of joked about it. There were all these red flags. Yet a CBS reporter did the dive (I imagine they most be greatly relieved they survived it).
But government should be the barrier between corpos and the well being of people.
False. The government causes greater harm to the well being of the people than corporations.
The vast majority of Americans are both employed by and are shareholders of corporations. And consume their products and services. What does the government have to offer besides setting your money on fire?
Corporations lobby the government to remove social safety nets, keep wages low and remove regulations that protect ordinary citizens.
You can thank the government for helping to reduce smog, strong arming industries from polluting. Yea there are kinks but they government is what helps keep us from a Bladerunner style ultra capitalist dystopia.
We’re still heading there because capitalism pretty much runs the government.
When it comes to government oppression, capitalists see it as oppression from doing what they want at the expense of ordinary people.
Regular People see government operation in the form of police forces that work at behalf of corporations.
We just had a recent submarine incident that lacked regulations. The CEO pretty much saw safety regulations as oppressive. Bet he was anti-government regulation.
Wonder what he thinks of deregulation now? Oh wait, he can’t. Because he’s fish food.
Your assertions are entirely false. Despite their flaws, corporations have done more to advance my economic welfare than any government has ever done.
Government has done nothing but steal from me in the name of "social safety net" or some such nonsense. Why the hell would I trust you, the only economic entity on earth utterly incapable of balancing your own budget, with my money?
False. The government causes greater harm to the well being of the people than corporations.
The vast majority of Americans are both employed by and are shareholders of corporations. And consume their products and services. What does the government have to offer besides setting your money on fire?
Well, someone's gotta hire all those Gender Studies graduates.
Well, someone's gotta hire all those Gender Studies graduates.
No one's part of that someone.
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