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Old 06-24-2023, 04:24 PM
 
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Imagine if the Wright brothers gave up because their first flight attempt crashed. I am sure there were some retards who saw that failure as proof that flying wasn't safe.

But luckily for us, the pioneers of science and technology didn't give up because of early failures. The found solutions to make their products safer.

Similarly the failure of this sub will result in better and safer subs in the future.
I told Orville and I told Wilbur, that thing will never fly.
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Old 06-24-2023, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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The engineer who called out the design was rewarded by being fired.
This sort of thing happens from time to time. Some years ago, there was a guy building a huge department store in Seoul, South Korea. He wanted to reduce the number of load-bearing pylons because they took up floor space. The engineer warned that doing so would weaken the structure and possibly lead to collapse, and yep, he was fired. The building was duly built with fewer pylons. A few years later, it collapsed, killing hundreds of people.

I wish there were some way to find out when someone gets fired for noticing safety flaws. That, right there, would ensure that I would never step foot in whatever was being built.
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Old 06-24-2023, 04:48 PM
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Actually, YES.... Wilbur was taking tourists up in Europe as early as 1908.
I don't believe that was the Kitty Hawk. That plane, in 1908, I believe had a patent and had been tested more thoroughly and was deemed safe. Much beyond their first attempt, the Kitty Hawk.
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Old 06-24-2023, 04:50 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Their money. Go for it.

This is the kind of 'early adaptor' crowd we need to work out all the bugs. It wasn't in vain.

Safer trips to the depths for studying. mabe find some weird fish that cures cancer or baldness.
Safer trips to labs in space to learn about the universe without all the Earth noise.

Godspeed!
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Old 06-24-2023, 05:02 PM
 
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I don't believe that was the Kitty Hawk. That plane, in 1908, I believe had a patent and had been tested more thoroughly and was deemed safe. Much beyond their first attempt, the Kitty Hawk.
And the analogy doesn't stand.

Neither airplanes (even the early models from the first couple decades of the 20th century) or submersibles are inherently dangerous.

Alot of aviation deaths have occurred, but that is a normal part of developing technology. People still die in car crashes and automobiles are only nominally older than the airplane.

The problem with Titan is that its builder took shortcuts. A window not rated for the depth and a carbon fiber hull likely sealed its fate.

Apart from that, my objection is not to deep sea diving, but to where they were going.

Titanic is a gravesite and it is different than a surface cemetery. Those places are specially built as both places of internment and memorial. Titanic was not intended to end up at its resting place. People recovered from the sea were buried on shore and there are memorials on both sides of the Atlantic.

She rests on the bottom as a warning against hubris.

Leave her and the spirits alone.
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Old 06-24-2023, 05:17 PM
 
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So what do you think? Should the government step in and say these highly dangerous "tourist" activities should not be allowed or can people freely decide what they can and cannot do and perhaps some sort of warning so people fully understand things can go very wrong. Personally I think let people decide.
Government doesn't necessarily (often doesn't) know what's best for us. It told us to get COVID vaccines.
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Old 06-24-2023, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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The vaccine conspiracies are so old already. I thought we were supposed to drop dead in like 2 years or something.
And I thought the covid vaccines were supposed to prevent getting and transmitting covid.

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Old 06-24-2023, 05:25 PM
 
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Sorry, the government should have 0 say on what people want to do freely. Because we all know it won't stop with submarines and space craft.
As I stated I agree with you.
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Old 06-24-2023, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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I still got Covid.

What it prevented was getting a severe case of Covid and hospitalization.
You responded to a previous poster saying that they government doesn't know what's best for us.

The government mandated vaccines based on the outright lie that it prevented transmission.

Telling someone to do something that will not work is not what's best for you.

(Also, I'm not vaccinated and I got covid too. It wasn't severe, I didn't die and I wasn't hospitalized - just like your vaccinated self.)
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Old 06-24-2023, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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It worked. I mean I’m not wearing masks anymore and social distancing is pretty much done.

We’re the mandates fed or state level?
It didn't work. I also almost never wore a mask or socially distanced.

The mandates I'm speaking of were on a federal level.
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