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It looks like Russia is admitting they need 5 million men to win the war.....OK
Putin thinks he's Zhukov on the road to Berlin.
It's a new day, Pootie. Grunt brute infantry, a restored industrial complex East of the Urals churning out T34s and a patriotic furor in the eyes of a peasant army will not be your salvation. You have none of that. Your soldiers are drunks and criminals who hate you, they aren't fighting a righteous war of self defense, your tanks suck and your industry is crippled.
As Stillwell Angel once said so prophetically - "You're gonna lose"
I think Russia will have to do more than leave Ukraine to end the war. So much within Ukraine has been destroyed. Who is going to pay for the rebuilding?
$300 billion of Russia's central bank's foreign assets have been frozen and are under the control of Ukraine’s allies. My guess is that Russia will have to agree to part of that going to Ukraine to rebuild. That plus troup withdrawal would probably be enough to get sanctions withdrawn.
I think Russia will have to do more than leave Ukraine to end the war. So much within Ukraine has been destroyed. Who is going to pay for the rebuilding?
$300 billion of Russia's central bank's foreign assets have been frozen and are under the control of Ukraine’s allies. My guess is that Russia will have to agree to part of that going to Ukraine to rebuild. That plus troup withdrawal would probably be enough to get sanctions withdrawn.
Maybe half of Russia's oil and gas revenue for the next 20 years.
I think Russia will have to do more than leave Ukraine to end the war. So much within Ukraine has been destroyed. Who is going to pay for the rebuilding?
$300 billion of Russia's central bank's foreign assets have been frozen and are under the control of Ukraine’s allies. My guess is that Russia will have to agree to part of that going to Ukraine to rebuild. That plus troup withdrawal would probably be enough to get sanctions withdrawn.
After World War II, according to the Potsdam conference held between July 17 and August 2, 1945, Germany was to pay the Allies US$23 billion mainly in machinery and manufacturing plants. Dismantling in the west stopped in 1950. Reparations to the Soviet Union stopped in 1953.
Beginning before the German surrender and continuing for the next two years, the United States pursued a vigorous program of harvesting all technological and scientific know-how as well as all patents and many leading scientists in Germany (known as Operation Paperclip). Historian John Gimbel, in his book Science Technology and Reparations: Exploitation and Plunder in Postwar Germany, states that the "intellectual reparations" (referring to German scientists) taken by the Allies amounted to close to $10 billion. German reparations were partly to be in the form of forced labor. By 1947, approximately 4,000,000 German POWs and civilians were used as forced labor (under various headings, such as "reparations labor" or "enforced labor") in Europe, Canada and the United States after the end of the Second World War.
$23 billion in 1945 dollars = $380 billion in 2022 dollars
$10 billion in 1945 dollars = $165 billion in 2022 dollars
After World War II, according to the Potsdam conference held between July 17 and August 2, 1945, Germany was to pay the Allies US$23 billion mainly in machinery and manufacturing plants. Dismantling in the west stopped in 1950. Reparations to the Soviet Union stopped in 1953.
Beginning before the German surrender and continuing for the next two years, the United States pursued a vigorous program of harvesting all technological and scientific know-how as well as all patents and many leading scientists in Germany (known as Operation Paperclip). Historian John Gimbel, in his book Science Technology and Reparations: Exploitation and Plunder in Postwar Germany, states that the "intellectual reparations" (referring to German scientists) taken by the Allies amounted to close to $10 billion. German reparations were partly to be in the form of forced labor. By 1947, approximately 4,000,000 German POWs and civilians were used as forced labor (under various headings, such as "reparations labor" or "enforced labor") in Europe, Canada and the United States after the end.
$23 billion in 1945 dollars = $380 billion in 2022 dollars
$10 billion in 1945 dollars = $165 billion in 2022 dollars
Yeah, that occurs only when one side loses the war. For example when foreign troops take over that country's capital. I don't think anybody in their wildest imagination sees Ukrainian troops marching into Moscow and taking over the Kremlin. So reparations are nothing but fantasy in this war.
Yeah, that occurs only when one side loses the war. For example when foreign troops take over that country's capital. I don't think anybody in their wildest imagination sees Ukrainian troops marching into Moscow and taking over the Kremlin. So reparations are nothing but fantasy in this war.
This is incorrect. Any resolution to this war will include the return of the $330 billion in Russian money and assets seized by western powers, a large portion of which will go to Ukraine for rebuilding. Even if the war ends in just a cease fire a lot of those funds will likely to Ukraine.
To justice? To Russia paying for the damage it caused through an unprovoked war? Repaying for some of the civilian infrastructure it needlessly destroyed?
I see no downside to Russia having to pay for Ukrainian reconstruction.
This is incorrect. Any resolution to this war will include the return of the $330 billion in Russian money and assets seized by western powers, a large portion of which will go to Ukraine for rebuilding. Even if the war ends in just a cease fire a lot of those funds will likely to Ukraine.
I agree....as they should. It's different when you are in possession of those funds. Russia will not see the return of that money.
This is incorrect. Any resolution to this war will include the return of the $330 billion in Russian money and assets seized by western powers, a large portion of which will go to Ukraine for rebuilding. Even if the war ends in just a cease fire a lot of those funds will likely to Ukraine.
Those assets have already been seized and are gone, no matter what Russia does.
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