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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 199 39.64%
No 254 50.60%
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Old 10-06-2022, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Question for pro war mongers

What if Putin launches chemical or biological warfare attack against Kiev like Saddam did to the Kurds?

What then?
Wouldn’t the United Nations get involved?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemic...ons_Convention

I note that Russia has signed and ratified the Convention.
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Old 10-06-2022, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Wouldn’t the United Nations get involved?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemic...ons_Convention

I note that Russia has signed and ratified the Convention.
What about UN? What are they going to do ?
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Old 10-06-2022, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Canada
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What about UN? What are they going to do ?
I don’t know. I doubt any discussions have taken place there about a hypothetical event.
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Old 10-06-2022, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Cali
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I don’t know. I doubt any discussions have taken place there about a hypothetical event.
You are saying a power hungry ruthless dictator like Putin with access to chem/bio weapon won’t use those weapons in desperation?
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Old 10-06-2022, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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So I see some of the pipelines were not destroyed and will be able to deliver gas to Europe in not too long. Do you think the USA will allow Europe to get any or will the hissy fit continue? With allies like America who needs enemies? Blinken.
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Old 10-06-2022, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Russia west of the Urals is notorious for looking down on those liveign further east. They're considered useful, but not real Russians. You wouldn't want your sister to marry one. Too Asian.

But China is Asian...
Actually the far east of Russia has a fairly signifgant Chinese population. That's a very porous border.

https://abcnews.go.com/International...d=82969&page=1

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The Moscow Carnegie Center, the only organization to launch an independent study, claimed that there were about 250,000 Chinese in Russia in 1997. The Interior Ministry has claimed that there are 2 million. Other estimates place the Chinese population at 5 million.
That was 20 years ago. There is scant news about the current numbers, but you'd better bet Bejing would not cry for the Russian Federation if it were to collapse It could pave an opening to the resource rich area of Eastern Russia within their sphere.
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Old 10-06-2022, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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True but somehow with some people's twisted logic it is wrong for the USA, Europe and virtually every Democracy on the planet to help Ukraine defend itself from invasion.
It's not twisted logic. There exists a far right segment of our populace with a strong desire to reshape our U.S. democracy with single party rule with a strongman at the helm. That's behind the utter adulation of Putin and Russia. That's their 'logic'.

Makes me sick to my stomach.
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Old 10-06-2022, 12:54 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Question for pro war mongers

What if Putin launches chemical or biological warfare attack against Kiev like Saddam did to the Kurds?

What then?
There are contingency plans at DOD.
You should not believe it is up to us. It's not. The plan has been made without our input.
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Old 10-06-2022, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Full scale bombing (carpet bombings) are the thing of history. It won't happen. If a missile needs to be put through someone's bedroom window, that's what will happen.
When the need was felt and opportunity arose to take out Ayman al-Zawahiri they waited until he stepped out on the balcony and did it. Been waiting for weeks.
There is no facility and no person safe if the US wants you gone.
So basically start ww3 by launching a missile through Putins window in Red Square.

Option a)
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Old 10-06-2022, 01:15 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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True but somehow with some people's twisted logic it is wrong for the USA, Europe and virtually every Democracy on the planet to help Ukraine defend itself from invasion.
It reminds me of what people used to say in the case of abused children: "Don't get involved! It's a family matter! Mind your own business! Who are you to stick your nose in other people's personal matters?!"
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