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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 203 39.73%
No 259 50.68%
Unsure 49 9.59%
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Old 06-23-2024, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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This evening, Ukrainian forces successfully struck the Russian NIP-16 space tracking and communication center in Vitino, Crimea with multiple MGM-140 ATACMS tactical ballistic missiles.

Multiple areas of the facility are burning.
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1804968315024199767
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Old 06-23-2024, 06:04 PM
 
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Looks like Russian terrorists are getting a taste of their own medicine. I hope it spreads like wild fires to all of Russia.
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Old 06-23-2024, 06:59 PM
 
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Looks like Russian terrorists are getting a taste of their own medicine. I hope it spreads like wild fires to all of Russia.

That's yet another attack of Islamic radicals in Caucasus.

It has been already squashed.


I wouldn't be cheering this kind of things, if I were you.
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Old 06-23-2024, 07:54 PM
 
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I repeat. If he wants a cease fire he should cease fire. Simple as that. What’s so complicated to you?
I don’t think you understand how it works.
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Old 06-23-2024, 10:04 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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.............Get real. This war has nothing about stopping Russia so they don't invade others. It's about power and influence in over the world.
That being the case, hasn't Russia already lost?
  • They have gained no markets for oil and natural gas, and lost many markets.
  • Most civilian industries in Russia have ceased operation.
  • The Russia military has been exposed as being much weaker than advertised
  • Russian weapons systems - formally a source of income - are no longer in demand
  • Russia is able to trade with only a few countries
And no one at all sees any of this changing after the war. Whenever that might be.
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Old 06-23-2024, 10:07 PM
 
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Cant help but notice you avoided the fact that Putin did indeed call for a ceasefire and peace talks, but Ukraine was told not to meet with him.
All of Putin's calls for a ceasefire also made it conditional upon Russia keeping all of their gains and Ukraine withdrawing their troops from the contested areas.
That is not a ceasefire, that's a demand for surrender.

Most recent, June 14, 2024
https://apnews.com/article/putin-rus...4c9d9eb8e9d36e

"Russian President Vladimir Putin promised Friday to “immediately” order a cease-fire in Ukraine and start negotiations if Kyiv began withdrawing troops from the four regions annexed by Moscow in 2022 and renounced plans to join NATO. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy rejected what he called an ultimatum by Putin to surrender more territory."

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"Broader demands for peace that Putin listed included Ukraine’s recognition of Crimea as part of Russia, keeping the country’s nonnuclear status, restricting its military force and protecting the interests of the Russian-speaking population. All of these should be part of “fundamental international agreements,” and all Western sanctions against Russia should be lifted, Putin said."
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Old Yesterday, 02:43 AM
 
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I don’t think you understand how it works.
So how does it work?
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Old Yesterday, 03:04 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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In this case, if we don't stand up to them, they start with one kid, down the block, and continue pushing others down.

We can either supply weapons to Ukraine to fight the Russians in Ukraine, or supply men and weapons to fight Russia somewhere else (Estonia being the most likely, but not certain, next step.)
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Same BS they asked you to swallow about Viet Nam right? Never gonna wake up this crowd I swear.
Oddly, that turned out to be the right philosophy, despite Leftist propaganda to the contrary.
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Old Yesterday, 03:19 AM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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I don’t think you understand how it works.
Of course I do. Russia started it they must be the first to ceasefire.
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Old Yesterday, 04:52 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Well if he wants a cease fire all he has to do is stop shooting. You know like stop flinging missiles into his neighbor’s yard. It’s pretty simple.
Truth.
That and he should begin talks of reparations for his aggressions.

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Cant help but notice you avoided the fact that Putin did indeed call for a ceasefire and peace talks, but Ukraine was told not to meet with him.
Propaganda.

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All of Putin's calls for a ceasefire also made it conditional upon Russia keeping all of their gains and Ukraine withdrawing their troops from the contested areas.
That is not a ceasefire, that's a demand for surrender.
...
Truth.
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