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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.80%
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Old 07-30-2023, 07:45 AM
 
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Is Russia willing to negotiate away part or all of the new “republics” that they added to their constitution?

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Old 07-30-2023, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Is Russia willing to negotiate away the part or all of the new “republics” that they added to their constitution?
I guess that is a function of how many widows watch as their sons are headed towards the trenches
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Old 07-30-2023, 07:55 AM
 
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how about the average 'retard' that overlooks the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine?..
The USA invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, and essentially used Pakistan as a spec-ops base because some rag-heads from Saudi Arabia got away with a clever terror attack. We spent nearly two decades and trillions of dollars to try and “fix” the problem of ME countries and arbitrary borders that should have never existed in the first place. I’m sure you were OK with that heroic effort, right?

But when Russia tries something similar to end a criminal enterprise in Ukraine that threatens their borders, they’re the evil party?
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Old 07-30-2023, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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The USA invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, and essentially used Pakistan as a spec-ops base because some rag-heads from Saudi Arabia got away with a clever terror attack. We spent nearly two decades and trillions of dollars to try and “fix” the problem of ME countries and arbitrary borders that should have never existed in the first place. I’m sure you were OK with that heroic effort, right?

But when Russia tries something similar to end a criminal enterprise in Ukraine that threatens their borders, they’re the evil party?

nope, I completely agree with you on part of this..and that is the fact that we never went after Saudi Arabia even though that is where the 9/11 terrorists came from..we went to Afghan to get Bin Laden..shoulda went straight into Pakistan too..
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Old 07-30-2023, 08:49 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The USA invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, and essentially used Pakistan as a spec-ops base because some rag-heads from Saudi Arabia got away with a clever terror attack. We spent nearly two decades and trillions of dollars to try and “fix” the problem of ME countries and arbitrary borders that should have never existed in the first place. I’m sure you were OK with that heroic effort, right?

But when Russia tries something similar to end a criminal enterprise in Ukraine that threatens their borders, they’re the evil party?
The US reacted to those countries' willingness to hide terrorists. Hopefully, that policy remains in place. The country where those terrorists were born would be of little interest.


Russia invaded Ukraine with the intent to rule them. Forever.
Yes. Russia is evil.
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Old 07-30-2023, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Lake County, IL
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Objectively, Russia is fighting for the preservation of the Russian state. But it's pretty difficult to explain to the average retard how Ukraine, NATO, Crimea, the Black Sea/Mediterranean, China, the Belt-and-Road Initiative, the US dollar/reserve currency, Iran, the Middle East, Africa, the global economy, trade wars/sanctions, energy/natural resources, industrial/technological competition, influence/hegemony, economic/military dependency, CIA/NED foreign meddling/coups/revolutions, etc, all fit together. And more importantly, why the average Russian would want to fight to prevent "The West" from pushing their color revolution regime-change or the balkanization of the Russian Federation.

What is really on the line here? What are the two futures that await Russians? And the rest of the world for that matter.
"You blind idiots, can't you see the ghost?!!" he cries out, frantically gesturing at thin air.

But please, do try to draw the connection for us simpletons, in layman's terms.
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Old 07-30-2023, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Lake County, IL
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The USA invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, and essentially used Pakistan as a spec-ops base because some rag-heads from Saudi Arabia got away with a clever terror attack. We spent nearly two decades and trillions of dollars to try and “fix” the problem of ME countries and arbitrary borders that should have never existed in the first place. I’m sure you were OK with that heroic effort, right?

But when Russia tries something similar to end a criminal enterprise in Ukraine that threatens their borders, they’re the evil party?
Oh look, another one. Please explain Ukraine's threat to Russia's borders.
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Old 07-30-2023, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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ISW Update 7/29/23

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...t-july-29-2023

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Jul 29, 2023 - Press ISW

Segments of the Russian pro-war ultranationalist information space appear to be coalescing around the Kremlin’s narrative effort to portray the Ukrainian counteroffensive as a failure, increasingly overstating Ukrainian losses and writing less about Russia's losses and challenges than they had been. Prominent Russian milbloggers have been increasingly presenting Ukrainian counteroffensive operations inaccurately as a series of failed Ukrainian assaults along the entire line of contact. Russian milbloggers widely amplified footage on July 29 claiming that it showed a single Russian tank defeating an entire Ukrainian company with armored vehicles as if the event had occurred recently, but the footage is actually from June 7 and shows Russian artillery units striking the Ukrainian column. Russian sources have previously recirculated old footage to support claims that Ukrainian forces are suffering significant armored vehicle losses, and the amplification of the footage on July 29 indicates that Russian sources are deliberately amplifying old footage to support the Kremlin narrative. Russian President Vladimir Putin recently claimed that Ukrainian forces lost 39 armored vehicles in a few days of fighting in western Zaporizhia Oblast, a notable inflection in his exaggeration of Ukrainian losses during the Ukrainian counteroffensive. ISW previously assessed that the Kremlin is likely shifting its policy about the coverage of the war to downplay the possibilities of a successful Ukrainian counteroffensive and to promote itself as an effective manager of the war effort. Russian milbloggers continue to report on localized Ukrainian advances and some issues with Russian defensive operations, but the pro-war Russian information space’s wider operational framing of the Ukrainian counteroffensive aligns with the likely shift in the Kremlin’s portrayal of the counteroffensive.
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Old 07-30-2023, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Lake County, IL
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https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...&utm_content=1
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Old 07-30-2023, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Lake County, IL
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They're liberators, you see!
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