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The US and/or any other countries were not planning on putting in nuclear weapons in Ukraine or their troops. With Cuba, USSR wanted to station nuclear weapons which was direct threat to the US. Very big difference between Ukraine and what happened during Cuba crisis.
I guess you conveniently forgot that the US staged an idiotic invasion of Cuba BEFORE that. And you also forgot that the US placed nuclear weapons in Turkey BEFORE the Cuban crisis. Those two were the main reasons that led to the Soviet deployment in Cuba.
Lastly, what was planned and what wasn't is not necessarily known, moreover it doesn't even matter. As I recently said, we threatened Solomon islands due to some plans they might have head with China. Were they a treat?
Cuba did not have any intention of invading the US. For some reason WW3 almost happened 60 years ago or so. And Cuba didn't even ask to join the Warsaw pact.
A bit different:
The Soviets placed nuclear missiles in Cuba, which is what brought on the crisis. We have not placed any nuclear missiles in Ukraine.
The US response to Cuba was a blockade. No one died. The Russian response to Ukraine is to invade, destroying cities and killing thousands including children.
Nope. That is, actually, VERY relevant. Velikoe Knyazhestvo Litovskoe, or The Great Lithuanian Principality, was the largest European Slav/Rus kingdom of its time. Part of Russia/Ukraine/Poland, some now German territories, the rest of them now prebaltics, etc. And, technically, it was same blood, modern Lithuania crosses away from with both hands and hates. That's result of westernization, my friend.
And look at it now. Lapdog to NATO and US. No backbone, no historical pride. They even hid their Magna Harta, or The Great Chart, because it is in old Russian. Nation with its roots cut off......
To be fair, it's not about nuclear weapons per se, but about security. What Russia had been complaining about for decades was threats to its security. Basically, Russia feels threatened by NATO soldiers/weapons on its border in the same way America would feel threatened by Chinese or Russian soldiers/weapons on our border.
America has a Monroe Doctrine for exactly that reason. We would NEVER tolerate Mexico forming a hostile alliance with China/Russia with military bases stretching from Tijuana to the Gulf of Mexico, nuclear weapons or not. Especially since much of the American southwest is majority Hispanic and had been part of Mexico(New Spain). That would be an existential crisis for the United States, and America would CRUSH the Mexicans and occupy Mexico City(again) if they ever tried.
Bull. If Mexico formed an alliance with China or Russia, the US would NOT invade Mexico unprovoked, we would not bomb Mexico City and Guadalajara, we would not shell Mexican schools and playgrounds. Because it would not be an existential crisis for the US. We live with a communist ally of Russia just 90 miles off our coast, and another one in Venezuela. I don’t believe those countries want to invade the US any more than Ukraine wants to invade Russia. Get real.
The US had no interest in invading Russia either before now or in the future. The US doesn't care about Russia and never will. If Russia actually behaved they could been part of NATO.
Sorry to disturb your well-being. Certainly, you are well familiar with the America expeditionary force in Murmansk in 1918? Of course, you are.
On July 14, 1918, the U.S. Army's 85th Division left their training camp at Camp Custer, Michigan for the Western Front in France. Three days later, President Wilson agreed to limited participation by American troops in the Allied Intervention..When U.S. Army General John J. Pershing received the directive from President Wilson, he changed the orders for the 339th Infantry Regiment, along with the First Battalion of the 310th Engineers plus a few other ancillary units from the 85th Division. Instead of heading for France, these units were trained and re-outfitted in England with Russian guns and then sent to North Russia. They arrived in Arkhangelsk on September 4, 1918, coming under British command. (Allied expeditionary forces had occupied Arkhangelsk on August 2, 1918.)
Nope. That is, actually, VERY relevant. Velikoe Knyazhestvo Litovskoe, or The Great Lithuanian Principality, was the largest European Slav/Rus kingdom of its time. Part of Russia/Ukraine/Poland, some now German territories, the rest of them now prebaltics, etc. And, technically, it was same blood, modern Lithuania crosses away from with both hands and hates. That's result of westernization, my friend.
And look at it now. Lapdog to NATO and US. No backbone, no historical pride. They even hid their Magna Harta, or The Great Chart, because it is in old Russian. Nation with its roots cut off......
You’re talking about stuff that happened, what 300 years ago? Talk about living in the past, who gives a rip?
Bull. If Mexico formed an alliance with China or Russia, the US would NOT invade Mexico unprovoked, we would not bomb Mexico City and Guadalajara, we would not shell Mexican schools and playgrounds. Because it would not be an existential crisis for the US. We live with a communist ally of Russia just 90 miles off our coast, and another one in Venezuela. I don’t believe those countries want to invade the US any more than Ukraine wants to invade Russia. Get real.
Unless you are sarcastic, are you referring to the same country (US) that bombed and shelled and Tomahawked civilians in Yugoslavia, without even trying to look at any international laws or talk to UN? Is there some other US, that did all THAT?
Wrong, it doesn't matter whether or not this disastrous policy has the support of all parties, it's still a reckless and disastrous policy. If Trump was President there would be no war.
If Trump were President there would be no more Ukraine.
The Soviets placed nuclear missiles in Cuba, which is what brought on the crisis. We have not placed any nuclear missiles in Ukraine.
The US response to Cuba was a blockade. No one died. The Russian response to Ukraine is to invade, destroying cities and killing thousands including children.
US would not rule out military action against ...Solomon Islands in case they allowed Chinese base.
If Mexico were suddenly joining the Warsaw pact, the US would just sit around? Please be realistic.
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