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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
Unsure 49 9.72%
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Old 05-03-2023, 01:28 PM
 
Location: NYC
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You really intend to proceed with propaganda, don't you?

Ukrainians "who live in the East" can have different opinions of course, but the majority of them wanted nothing to do with Maidan and the government that came as the result of the coup d'etat in Kiev.

Because after all, they were the ones overwhelmingly voting for Yanukovich in the first place.

You can repeat hundred times how corrupt he was, but he was delivering to the South-Easterners the kind of economy they wanted, assuring that their industrial base would keep on going.

They knew very well what was coming with the new puppet government, that this industrial base providing people with jobs would be soon destroyed.

And that's precisely what happened.
There is no amount of internal turmoil that justifies another country to invade. But of course all is fair in love and war. At the end of the day, the Russians and Ukrainians deserve everything that happens to them. Knowing who the Russians are, I would not shed a tear at their demise.
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Old 05-03-2023, 01:31 PM
 
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You really intend to proceed with propaganda, don't you?

Ukrainians "who live in the East" can have different opinions of course, but the majority of them wanted nothing to do with Maidan and the government that came as the result of the coup d'etat in Kiev.

Because after all, they were the ones overwhelmingly voting for Yanukovich in the first place.

You can repeat hundred times how corrupt he was, but he was delivering to the South-Easterners the kind of economy they wanted, assuring that their industrial base would keep on going.

They knew very well what was coming with the new puppet government, that this industrial base providing people with jobs would be soon destroyed.

And that's precisely what happened.

I'm still trying to understand how a conflict that would qualitatively coincide with the Caroline precedent set by the United States back in the 1800s for defence of an area in danger of imminent attack is considered unlawful or belligerent but the colour revolution that helped install this present era government by the West and George Soros is something to be recognised and cultivated
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Old 05-03-2023, 01:32 PM
 
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So is this to get Russian civilian support or are they wanting to fire some heavy duty weapons to cause catastrophic damage to large apartment buildings? That’ll show the world how much of a big bad military Russia has!
Putin had terrible poll numbers until a series of terror attacks shook Moscow - he cemented his power during the Czechen war. Of course, a whole lot of those attacks were sort of unconvincing as terrorists go, but the FSB is not above breaking a lot of eggs to make that sort of omelet.

Expect a few Moscow apartment blocks to go next, due to "Ukrainian terrorists".
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Old 05-03-2023, 02:30 PM
 
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People said the same thing about Japan. The Japanese population has already peaked but their economy is still strong, and their military is in the top 10.

China has been around since about 4000 years before the US, and will probably be around about 4000 years after the US vaporizes.
With a 4000 year head start why are they still playing catch up?
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Old 05-03-2023, 03:10 PM
 
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People said the same thing about Japan. The Japanese population has already peaked but their economy is still strong, and their military is in the top 10.

China has been around since about 4000 years before the US, and will probably be around about 4000 years after the US vaporizes.
If you want to talk about China before unification, you should talk about America before unification.
The CCP was founded in 1921. That's how old "China" is. Before that, it was nothing more than a place where Chinese people lived, mostly being man-handled by western powers and other foreign nations.



I never heard anyone say Japan will die. It will, though, along with China, but not for many, many years. Both countries know this. Newsweek says Japan in reaching the point of no return. LINK!


Demographics of the world is changing and from about this point onward, population will do nothing but fall. Forever. LINK!


Russia, because of their ineptitude, will lead the charge downward to irrelevance.
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Old 05-03-2023, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Another thing, the video of the drone hitting the Russia flag is clearly handheld, so someone is deliberately filming that. It’s not a security camera.

This has false flag all over it. Silly Kremlin, they are even sloppier than they were on 2/24/2022!
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Old 05-03-2023, 05:45 PM
 
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Which version let the wookiee win or hope the Russians won't let their nukes fly if they think the rest of the world's shock and awe will end them?
They wanna keep saying they are gonna throw nukes. I would tell em well come on and get it over with what are you waiting for. Lets see if they got the guts to do it bra.
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Old 05-03-2023, 06:07 PM
 
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Man, I just became an Uncle. the world needs to chill.
Things won't be getting better.
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Old 05-03-2023, 06:44 PM
 
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I'm still trying to understand how a conflict that would qualitatively coincide with the Caroline precedent set by the United States back in the 1800s for defence of an area in danger of imminent attack is considered unlawful or belligerent but the colour revolution that helped install this present era government by the West and George Soros is something to be recognised and cultivated

OK, thanks for the links.

No matter how much I want to puke while looking at Nuland's pic, I'll try to go over the article.

I am not looking at any "legalities" in this whole case with Ukraine, because there was nothing but dirty political games there, ( both from the West and Putin,) which killed a lot of people.

And as far as the second article goes -


"CARYOV (Through Translator): I think that to provide an election when an army is fighting its own people is illegal, according to our constitution. That's why as a presidential candidate, I withdrew from this election' -

they are actually referring to this guy


He is the ultimate witness of everything that took place.

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Old 05-03-2023, 06:47 PM
 
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If you want to talk about China before unification, you should talk about America before unification.
The CCP was founded in 1921. That's how old "China" is. Before that, it was nothing more than a place where Chinese people lived, mostly being man-handled by western powers and other foreign nations.



I never heard anyone say Japan will die. It will, though, along with China, but not for many, many years. Both countries know this. Newsweek says Japan in reaching the point of no return. LINK!


Demographics of the world is changing and from about this point onward, population will do nothing but fall. Forever. LINK!


Russia, because of their ineptitude, will lead the charge downward to irrelevance.
I see you failed history among other things.
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