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Something darkly entertaining about the idea that Ukraine's territory is something for Donald Trump to negotiate away.
It is not.
Trump or not, the idea itself is true, actually. Its legs grow out of the firm US conviction that, US owns the world, and can do whatever it wants, anywhere it wants and to whomever it wants to. By the virtue of having the largest mace in the world or, printing enough green paper to buy anyone.
Hence, US politicians and paries behind them still believe, that they can use formally independent countries, thousands miles away, as chips in its poker game of the world dominance.
This will pass, no worries. It's inertia of thinking through the last about 3 US generations. Reality is yet to kick into their minds.
I was putting it delicately but yes I agree. That’s the point I was trying to make though. Trump and his advisors would have handled the Ukraine situation the same way because at the end of the day his foreign policy was not much different from Obama, Bush or Biden’s has been. It’s naïve to take such a hyper-contrarian stance and actively support Putin’s invasion just because of who was in office in Washington when it happened.
Another story from an alternate reality. Trump’s disposition toward Russia was to establish good relations, and advance cooperation and economic opportunities, which is totally the reverse of globalist and neocon policy of maintaining a long standing confrontational anti-Russian stance.
Why you come here with these stories that have no basis in reality is difficult to fathom. Why?
Ukraine to export electricity again after months of Russian attacks
Ukraine is able to export electricity for the first time in six months as its energy infrastructure recovers from months of repeated Russian attacks. Russia began its lengthy and deliberate assault on Ukraine's energy infrastructure last October. It led to power cuts and scheduled blackouts, leaving towns and cities in darkness during winter. Ukraine was forced to stop electricity exports - but will now be able to sell its excess power again.
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Ukrenergo said on Saturday that Russia has launched more than 1,200 missiles and drones at its energy facilities so far during the war.
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In June 2022, Ukraine had said it was hoping to bring in €1.5bn (£1.33bn) from electricity exports to the EU - its main export market for energy since the war began - by the end of the year.
Something darkly entertaining about the idea that Ukraine's territory is something for Donald Trump to negotiate away.
If you’re into fiction, the idea might be entertaining. But if you’re into reality, Obama and Biden have already sacrificed Ukrainian territory by their continued conduct of provocative anti-Russian foreign policies that forced this situation toward the battlefield, instead of the negotiation table.
Had Trump been in charge, there would not have been a hot war there at all, because the Russian proposals for peaceful solutions offered prior to taking military action were reasonable and workable, which basically involved Ukraine adhering to the agreements it had already agreed to under the Minsk accords. That peace included Ukraine maintaining its sovereignty over the lands of the entire Donbas region, so long as Ukraine respected their right to local self determination on internal policies.
Now, that territory is in the hands of the Russians, has been formally annexed, and no longer part of Ukraine. And by continuing to reject any negotiated settlement with Russia, Ukraine only stands to lose more and suffer greater loss of life and possible irreparable damage.
The entire conflict, and massive loss of life, could have been easily avoided. And the Russians made several attempts to do just that, but the US puppet regime continued its policies of military operations against the people of Donbas, and the legislative actions that literally outlawed the Russian language throughout the country, while continuing to pursue NATO membership, while openly declaring their intention to retake the Crimea. It was those policies that made war unavoidable and peace impossible.
Putin invaded Crimea AND Georgia AND Syria under OBAMA, not Trump.
I know the left has short term memory but this is alarming.
Correction … Russia’s actions in Crimea and Georgia were in response to the same Western interference and attempts to subvert those country’s governments like was done in Ukraine.
As for Syria … they have been allies of Russia for a long time, and Russia’s activities there were in defense of the Syrian government against yet another western effort to overthrow it by funding and arming ISIS terrorists.
Ukraine to export electricity again after months of Russian attacks
Ukraine is able to export electricity for the first time in six months as its energy infrastructure recovers from months of repeated Russian attacks. Russia began its lengthy and deliberate assault on Ukraine's energy infrastructure last October. It led to power cuts and scheduled blackouts, leaving towns and cities in darkness during winter. Ukraine was forced to stop electricity exports - but will now be able to sell its excess power again.
[…]
Ukrenergo said on Saturday that Russia has launched more than 1,200 missiles and drones at its energy facilities so far during the war.
[…]
In June 2022, Ukraine had said it was hoping to bring in €1.5bn (£1.33bn) from electricity exports to the EU - its main export market for energy since the war began - by the end of the year.
Well, that's good news.
Any idea why the Russians are focusing on energy infrastructure instead of military targets?
Now Ukraine can play by the Russian rules and strike energy infrastructures in Russia. Of course, Russian bots would be accusing Ukraine of terrorism. We can do it to you, but you can't do it to us. These Russian bots are something else.
Now Ukraine can play by the Russian rules and strike energy infrastructures in Russia. Of course, Russian bots would be accusing Ukraine of terrorism. We can do it to you, but you can't do it to us. These Russian bots are something else.
Terrorism aside, it seems like a stupid strategy.
Ukrainians are not going to give up because they have to do without electricity for varying lengths of time, and it does nothing to change the military situation.
Seems like it would be better to hit military targets.
Ukrainians are not going to give up because they have to do without electricity for varying lengths of time, and it does nothing to change the military situation.
Seems like it would be better to hit military targets.
No?
Russian bots say those are legitimate targets because Ukrainian troops hide in them. There is your answer.
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