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India is already purchasing from the U.S., France and Israel. And from what I see coming out of there, the defense experts want to make that switch.
Well, it probably didn't go unnoticed in India that the T-90s they'd shipped to Russia for refurbishment were sent to Ukraine instead. That sort of thing sometimes sours a client/vendor relationship.
Will we be able to sell arms to India, keep arming Ukraine and fight a second front in Taiwan? It's not like we're rolling in equipment the longer this drags on.
This doesn't make sense. Ukraine can decide whatever they want but it doesn't matter if they can't achieve it on their own. Putin (or his likeminded cronies) aren't going anywhere. So what's the solution here? We can't supply them forever, and Ukraine taking the borders back to 2014 is a pipedream. Somebody needs to be the adult in the room and end this thing.
We also need to realize that much of the world sees us a belligerent in this war, pushing Ukraine into further destruction instead of negotiating peace. It's just how it is. It doesn't matter if we see it differently and no amount of cajoling or arm twisting is going to change it. The longer we ignore that, the higher chance that alliances start to shift and our soft power erodes.
To answer your first question, didn't the U.S. do much more in WWII?
Regarding the sentence that I bolded, you are completely inaccurate. You lost any credibility you might have had.
Xi snubbed Putin after their summit, calling a meeting of Central Asian countries as part of an audacious power play:
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Xi invited the leaders of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan to the first China-Central Asia summit on Wednesday, the AFP news agency reported. It remains unclear whether the reclusive state of Turkmenistan has been invited.
The states are all former members of the Soviet Union, and Moscow has long regarded them as being in its sphere of influence after the then-Russian Empire conquered them in the 19th century.
That talking point worked better before Europe stocked up oon LNG to the point that there's now most likely enough for the 2023-2024 winter as well. What else does Russia make that the world needs? Europe is doing fine. (Getting off the fossil fuel teat is a surprising benefit.)
The reason Russia can't be sanctioned is because we have a global economy and the West is no longer the dominant force in said global economy. Russia can simply sell to someone else. Furthermore, LNG is 4x more expensive than Russian gas. Many European industries are going bankrupt after production costs skyrocketed.
Energy is what makes the modern world possible. Without energy we would all be dirt-farmers. Countries/industries with access to energy at below-market rates are subsidized, while countries buying energy at above-market rates struggle to compete.
For decades, cheap Russian energy subsidized European industry(especially German industry, which is the driver of the EU economy). Europe's production costs were already high, but now they face new competitors in Asia(especially China) while simultaneously being hit with soaring inflation and production costs.
The outcome of Europe's sanctions is that Russia will reroute its energy to the East(subsidizing Eastern economies) while Europe goes bankrupt. That isn't to say they aren't hurting Russia, but they are hurting themselves even more. The only reason Europe continues the sanctions is because they believe Russia will collapse before they do.
It is tantamount to a game of chicken. And for what? Crimea? Give me a ****ing break.
Turkey is an important country for Russia, Ukraine, and NATO. To reach the Black Sea, ships have to go through Turkish controlled the Black Straits. Its close proximity to both Russia and Ukraine would make Turkey a valuable ally to either country. Now I know why NATO has to put up with Turkey's erratic behaviors.
As for Turkey's relationships with Ukraine and Russia, Ankara is favoring Ukraine at the moment. I didn't even know Turkey has sent volunteer fighters to Ukraine at their expense. The video explains it better.
Volunteer fighters from the Stan countries express the same concern: If Ukraine is lost, they are next.
The reason Russia can't be sanctioned is because we have a global economy and the West is no longer the dominant force in said global economy. Russia can simply sell to someone else. Furthermore, LNG is 4x more expensive than Russian gas. Many European industries are going bankrupt after production costs skyrocketed.
Energy is what makes the modern world possible. Without energy we would all be dirt-farmers. Countries/industries with access to energy at below-market rates are subsidized, while countries buying energy at above-market rates struggle to compete.
For decades, cheap Russian energy subsidized European industry(especially German industry, which is the driver of the EU economy). Europe's production costs were already high, but now they face new competitors in Asia(especially China) while simultaneously being hit with soaring inflation and production costs.
The outcome of Europe's sanctions is that Russia will reroute its energy to the East(subsidizing Eastern economies) while Europe goes bankrupt. That isn't to say they aren't hurting Russia, but they are hurting themselves even more. The only reason Europe continues the sanctions is because they believe Russia will collapse before they do.
It is tantamount to a game of chicken. And for what? Crimea? Give me a ****ing break.
Yep, Intel had a very large fab planned for Germany. (19 Billion) but now are asking for billions more from their government to build there as it will cost them significantly more now.
You also have a lot of the large German industrials trying to source more manufacturing outside of germany due to cost. This is important as Germany is the biggest manufacturer in europe.
Ouch, that's got to hurt. Kazakhstan has consistently flipped the bird at Moscow over Ukraine. Perhaps they'd like to align more with their fellow Asians?
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Turkey more than doubled trade with Russia last year. Just google, "Turkey Ukraine Russia" or "Turkey Russia trade". Pretty much every article complains that Turkey and Russia are strengthening ties and that Turkey is helping Russia evade sanctions.
Turkey loves this war. They want it to go to the last Ukrainian. Then the last Pole. Then the last German. Etc.
The reason Russia can't be sanctioned is because we have a global economy and the West is no longer the dominant force in said global economy. Russia can simply sell to someone else. Furthermore, LNG is 4x more expensive than Russian gas. Many European industries are going bankrupt after production costs skyrocketed.
Energy is what makes the modern world possible. Without energy we would all be dirt-farmers. Countries/industries with access to energy at below-market rates are subsidized, while countries buying energy at above-market rates struggle to compete.
For decades, cheap Russian energy subsidized European industry(especially German industry, which is the driver of the EU economy). Europe's production costs were already high, but now they face new competitors in Asia(especially China) while simultaneously being hit with soaring inflation and production costs.
The outcome of Europe's sanctions is that Russia will reroute its energy to the East(subsidizing Eastern economies) while Europe goes bankrupt. That isn't to say they aren't hurting Russia, but they are hurting themselves even more. The only reason Europe continues the sanctions is because they believe Russia will collapse before they do.
It is tantamount to a game of chicken. And for what? Crimea? Give me a ****ing break.
Nice try.....I am guessing from reading your posts....you want us to say ..."gee ...I guess we should cave in to Russia and let them do whatever they want because they have cheap fuel"....carte blanche for Russia...
I say f**k that....Russia is being a bully ....and you don't reward a bully...
FYI Germany received more natural gas last year (by pipeline) from Norway 33% than from Russia 22%...
Norway is the third largest exporter of natural gas after Russia and Qatar...
As for german industry and exports....China is not really a direct competitor .....apples and oranges
China produces the cheap junky stuff we buy at Walmart...
Germany produces more "high end" quality ....BMW ...Mercedes ...Audi....
people have always been willing to pay more for high quality ...I see more german cars on the road
these days than ever before....
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