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"I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out."
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Originally Posted by Mikala43
A lot of school boards do get a little out of control. I'm sure if this one has, the lawsuits which will be brought will show that.
The three speakers in the original video left the microphone vowing to sue.
Simon Campbell, former school board member is not going quietly into that good night.
I hope all their heads roll. The idea that they can shut someone down, YOU'RE DONE, for saying something they disagree with, using terms they don't want to hear, is really outrageous. And the crowd behind Mr. Campbell was very supportive of him.
I watched the original video in the OP, and additionally the follow up video on YouTube with Simon Campbell (former school board member) addressing the school board himself at the follow up June meeting.
It's clearly a case of shutting down legal public comments because they don't like what's being said. These were people who had the floor, introduced themselves and began comment, and had only been speaking for a very short time, when they were talked over, and told they were done. I've attended enough school board meetings to know that is not how it's done, at all. The community member who has the microphone doesn't get talked over, except in rare cases like mentioning of specific students by name or other privileged information.
The thing is, in the past, school boards have often taken power they don't rightfully have, and they were typically right wing.
NOW, school boards are taking power they don't have, and those are typically left wing.
That video is a clear example of how not to behave during a meeting with parliamentary rules. That guy obviously has personal anger issues which have nothing to do with any issue of that board meeting.
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That video is a clear example of how not to behave during a meeting with parliamentary rules. That guy obviously has personal anger issues which have nothing to do with any issue of that board meeting.
You should go back and watch the OP video - that meeting is what he's responding to.
I don't see "personal anger issues" as much as shock and outrage, as a former board member himself, at the outrageous behavior of the current school board shutting down unflattering public commentary.
That is exactly how a member of the public can behave at a public comment portion of an open school board meeting, and the parliamentarian should have quietly warned the chair, not the public commenter, that he was out of order in dismissing the speakers.
The three speakers in the original video left the microphone vowing to sue.
Simon Campbell, former school board member is not going quietly into that good night.
I hope all their heads roll. The idea that they can shut someone down, YOU'RE DONE, for saying something they disagree with, using terms they don't want to hear, is really outrageous. And the crowd behind Mr. Campbell was very supportive of him.
We'll see. One guy in the video kept saying CRT, and he was told they don't teach that, and he insisted that HE would call it that..... he did it to himself. He wanted to argue what to call the teaching, and he was booted, and rightfully so.
If I went to a school meeting and insisted on call a christianity class "folklore" or "mythology" I would get the same treatment.
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You should go back and watch the OP video - that meeting is what he's responding to.
I don't see "personal anger issues" as much as shock and outrage, as a former board member himself, at the outrageous behavior of the current school board shutting down unflattering public commentary.
That is exactly how a member of the public can behave at a public comment portion of an open school board meeting, and the parliamentarian should have quietly warned the chair, not the public commenter, that he was out of order in dismissing the speakers.
There is a reason that dude was voted off the board, probably because his mind derailed long ago.
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We'll see. One guy in the video kept saying CRT, and he was told they don't teach that, and he insisted that HE would call it that..... he did it to himself. He wanted to argue what to call the teaching, and he was booted, and rightfully so.
If I went to a school meeting and insisted on call a christianity class "folklore" or "mythology" I would get the same treatment.
You shouldn't. If you did, it's lawsuit time.
This is an official school board meeting, open to the public, with the legally required amount of time allotted for public comment.
So yes. If the public school was offering a Christianity class, you could absolutely go there and call it folklore and mythology. And not be silenced.
Mr. Campbell made a great point - "we don't have to be nice to you" and then cited Supreme Court case law backing him up. They don't have a right to being treated verbally respectfully. And they don't have a right to shut down people they are tired of listening to.
Well, I must admit that I am pleasantly surprised at a couple of the people posting here who I would have thought would be on the side of the school board are NOT.
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There is a reason that dude was voted off the board, probably because his mind derailed long ago.
I don't know that he was "voted off" - maybe he chose not to run again?
It's a little surprising, on this forum, that there isn't support for parents using the appropriate legal channels who are pushing back on critical race theory being taught in their schools.
This is an official school board meeting, open to the public, with the legally required amount of time allotted for public comment.
So yes. If the public school was offering a Christianity class, you could absolutely go there and call it folklore and mythology. And not be silenced.
Mr. Campbell made a great point - "we don't have to be nice to you" and then cited Supreme Court case law backing him up. They don't have a right to being treated verbally respectfully. And they don't have a right to shut down people they are tired of listening to.
Nope. The rules state you cannot be derogatory or attack, and that would be a derogatory attack.
Just because he cited something, doesn't mean it applies (I don't know), people here mis-cite all kinds of laws.
But sure, I support their right to sue.
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That video is a clear example of how not to behave during a meeting with parliamentary rules. That guy obviously has personal anger issues which have nothing to do with any issue of that board meeting.
I just watched that video for the first time, and YES, he was angry and maybe (probably) over the line; he could certainly have been more calm and respectful.
However, what is interesting is that the ratio of likes to dislikes is about 175 to 1 -- so it is obvious that MANY people agree with him (and not the audience cheers.
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