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Old 07-07-2021, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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That is your opinion, NOT the law. They can protest, just not in the middle of a meeting. They may protest outside, like normal protestors. No one is stopping their right to speech.

People need to learn how this stuff works, especially as they are all "patriots".
Protesting in the middle of a meeting instead of bringing constructive viewpoints and following the parliamentary procedure, will only result in closed meeting sessions going forward.

Being loud and disruptive is not a productive method of communicating.
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Old 07-07-2021, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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That is your opinion, NOT the law. They can protest, just not in the middle of a meeting. They may protest outside, like normal protestors. No one is stopping their right to speech.

People need to learn how this stuff works, especially as they are all "patriots".
No, what they're doing is crossing into prior restraint. Time, place, manner, all must be content neutral. The school board can't allow someone to spend their three minutes of public comment to talk about how math is taught, while shutting down someone using their three minutes to talk about crt. Now, does this mean you can talk about anything you want? No. If the person gets up to talk about the last episode of Loki, that is 100% irrelevant, just as someone getting up to talk about the last episode of Batman. Both should be disallowed and is still content neutral because those would have nothing to do with the school system or education.
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Old 07-07-2021, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Explanation or cite, please.
All that showed up on a search was......
https://www.worldanimalprotection.ca...wer-ag-gag-law
This might have been what s/he was referring to.
https://www.thestar.com/politics/fed...d-to-know.html

Btw, it did NOT pass the Senate.

https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/news/s...conservatives/
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Old 07-07-2021, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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So how is the statute cited NOT the law?

And if you watched the video, the school board person-in-charge DID stop the the person, who was seated at a table with a microphone, from speaking. This was not a case of someone barging into a meeting waving a picket sign and disrupting the meeting. He WAS allowed to speak until he started saying something that he school board person did not like. (And that italicized sentence is NOT opinion, but fact.) Please watch the video -- or at least starting at the 3:00 minute mark if you want to skip the commentary and just watch the censorship itself.

Maybe that issue was not on the agenda for the meeting. Maybe it was, and the person was allowed to speak more later on. Maybe there were time limits on how long a person could speak.

I don't watch YouTube videos for information, there are too many ways it can be a false narrative. I don't watch them on ANY subject if I do not know the person or company who produced them. It is the worst kind of information.
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Old 07-07-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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Protesting in the middle of a meeting instead of bringing constructive viewpoints and following the parliamentary procedure, will only result in closed meeting sessions going forward.

Being loud and disruptive is not a productive method of communicating.


Do YOU have the agenda for that meeting? I don't. Do you know their rules on public speaking at these meetings? I don't.
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Old 07-07-2021, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Florida
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This might have been what s/he was referring to.
https://www.thestar.com/politics/fed...d-to-know.html

Btw, it did NOT pass the Senate.
Thanks
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Old 07-07-2021, 08:51 AM
 
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I watched the original video in the OP, and additionally the follow up video on YouTube with Simon Campbell (former school board member) addressing the school board himself at the follow up June meeting.

It's clearly a case of shutting down legal public comments because they don't like what's being said. These were people who had the floor, introduced themselves and began comment, and had only been speaking for a very short time, when they were talked over, and told they were done. I've attended enough school board meetings to know that is not how it's done, at all. The community member who has the microphone doesn't get talked over, except in rare cases like mentioning of specific students by name or other privileged information.

The thing is, in the past, school boards have often taken power they don't rightfully have, and they were typically right wing.

NOW, school boards are taking power they don't have, and those are typically left wing.

The pendulum swings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9GcDK0zBkU

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Old 07-07-2021, 08:59 AM
 
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And further legal comment, on the School Board's practice of editing out unflattering comments when they post the video of the meeting on their website, which they do under the "open public meeting" procedure.

Pennsbury Editing Some Public Comments Out Of Board Meeting Videos - LevittownNow.com
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Old 07-07-2021, 09:01 AM
 
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A lot of school boards do get a little out of control. I'm sure if this one has, the lawsuits which will be brought will show that.
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Old 07-07-2021, 09:08 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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No, what they're doing is crossing into prior restraint. Time, place, manner, all must be content neutral. The school board can't allow someone to spend their three minutes of public comment to talk about how math is taught, while shutting down someone using their three minutes to talk about crt. Now, does this mean you can talk about anything you want? No. If the person gets up to talk about the last episode of Loki, that is 100% irrelevant, just as someone getting up to talk about the last episode of Batman. Both should be disallowed and is still content neutral because those would have nothing to do with the school system or education.
Well there's you're loophole. They can just say any talk about CRT is irrelevant because the schools are not teaching it, and technically they'd be correct. They are not teaching the theory they are applying its principles to their teaching. They are not teaching CRT they are teaching C.R.A.P. (Critical Race Applied Principles). We need to cut the C.R.A.P. for our children's sake.
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