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Old 07-01-2021, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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LGBTQ Pride Month: Don't you dare say we need 'straight pride'

We need Straight Pride, there, I said it.
There was actually a straight pride parade in Boston a few years back. The only attendees were those who participated.
NYC Pride Parade back in 2019 drew over 4 million spectators. Should also be noted many pride parade attendees and participants are in fact not members of the LGBT community, but rather those whom support that community.
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:13 AM
 
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There was actually a straight pride parade in Boston a few years back. The only attendees were those who participated.
NYC Pride Parade back in 2019 drew over 4 million spectators. Should also be noted many pride parade attendees and participants are in fact not members of the LGBT community, but rather those whom support that community.
you have to be a real special person to see a gay parade and get so jealous you need to throw your own.

I mean.. why the hell were they watching a gay parade in the first place?
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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No they can't.

But they can certainly point out how silly it is that you're being "proud" of something that you yourself claim that you have no control over.

There is no more reason to be proud of being gay than to be proud of having a 32" inseam.

You are, by your own admission, exactly the way you were born.

How is that a source of pride?
It isn't about pride for being gay, it's about pride in the fight that we have endured to gain the rights we currently have and for the continued fight for equality. IT is about not having to hide in the closet anymore.
It is about community and acceptance. For some it is about having a safe place to be yourself and letting your guard down for a few moments.
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:33 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Ultimately, a reasonable person doesn't feel the need to grandstand his or her sexual preference, regardless of what that preference might be.

I don't see "solosexuals" (those who prefer masturbation) having parades. Yet, they would be considered deviant by the mainstream, would they not? So why shouldn't they have a parade as well? You know, inclusivity and all. Maybe they could have their own flag too: a blue background with a grey hand grasping a rod. Oh wait, that would be exclusionary. Maybe just a hand.
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:33 AM
 
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It isn't about pride for being gay, it's about pride in the fight that we have endured to gain the rights we currently have and for the continued fight for equality. IT is about not having to hide in the closet anymore.
It is about community and acceptance. For some it is about having a safe place to be yourself and letting your guard down for a few moments.

I think it can certainly be about being PROUD of who you are. Pride is the opposite of shame, And no one should have to feel shame over their sexual orientation.
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:48 AM
 
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I posted before the gays need to get rid of kink fringe groups from their parade!!
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The speaker makes a good point.

Some people’s self esteem seems to depend on a sense of superiority to Fill in the Blank.

Civil rights seems to threaten some people.
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Old 07-01-2021, 10:45 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Because pride marches and drag queens marching up and down the street coupled with rainbow flags is the best way to win over those who don't believe in homosexuality or have deep seated religious views.

If anything it's just going to do the opposite and have the opposite effect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXaoU1zMNww
Pride isnt to win over the homophobes.

But i have also been to comiccons, so what people where during pride is irrelevant to me and this discussion and shows me that its the concept you have a problem with, not the actions itself.
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Old 07-01-2021, 10:49 AM
 
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Don't understand the concept of "pride" at all. I'm heterosexual. Who cares? Not something I would be "proud" of. You're gay? Again, who gives a !#%@?. Go live your life.
Lots of people do, and generally not in a kind way. Giving a loved one a peck on the cheek in a restaurant, holding hands in public, being admitted to the hospital room of a life partner? Privileges that have been denied same-sex couples for decades.

They're not proud of their orientation as if it was an accomplishment. But they are proud - justifiably - of having stood up for their rights to be a part of society on an equal footing. Good on them.
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Old 07-01-2021, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Because pride marches and drag queens marching up and down the street coupled with rainbow flags is the best way to win over those who don't believe in homosexuality or have deep seated religious views.

If anything it's just going to do the opposite and have the opposite effect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXaoU1zMNww
I think you underestimated what Pride Marches, then Pride Parades have done.

The goal wasn't to win people over, the goals were to get laws changed so gay people would not be discriminated against.

It has worked in a lot of countries. The early marches made millions of other gays learn that they weren't alone.

Knowing you weren't alone translated into a movement. This was all pre-internet. Imagine the only representation you saw in media about gays was that they were either twisted old men lurking in alleyways, or trying to convert children, and their life usually ended in suicide and you knew that wasn't you, but were there others like you? Normal people who just happen to be gay?

Imagine worrying when looking for an apartment with a partner only to be told " we don't rent to two men " and that was legal. Imagine being fired from a furniture store because it's " a family store ". Imagine being afraid of being killed for just being gay, or at least beat up. It still happens today.

The marches started because of all that.

Pride Parades have more than drag queens. They have groups of politicians, religious groups, lawyers, police, doctors, firefighters, local restaurants, bars, banks, and yes drag queens. Why drag queens? Because drag queens were some of the first to fight back when bars were raided. The famous one being Stonewall in NYC.

I personally know a few drag queens here in Vancouver. They work hard for charities, and are good people. Fun, intelligent and great entertainers. They do drag almost as a job. They aren't in drag 24/7, they have regular jobs. In fact, some get called to do drag for corporate events. I'm not sure how common that is elsewhere, but here in Vancouver it's not uncommon.

The parades are attended by millions around the world. Gays and allies. You see many straight people at the parades and they have a great time.

So relax. We aren't trying to win you over. We are celebrating OUR achievements.

What I really don't understand is how an adult, like yourself, thinks that a celebratory parade, with over the top floats and all kinds of fun, isn't really any different than a Mardi Gras Parade where straight women bare their breasts. If you are so concerned about people with deeply held religious beliefs, perhaps start there, since Pride Parades aren't based on religion, but Mardi Gras actually is. That is if you believe a women's bare breasts are sinful. I personally, do not. Mardi Gras sounds fun.

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