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Old 06-24-2021, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Oh come on now...

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...on-hs/2440924/

Or this article...

https://wtop.com/alexandria/2020/10/...sions-process/

Oh and here is the punch-line to the joke....they want to change the standards to let in more minorities that previously didn't qualify so that they can feel meritorious. What the fudge?
So the minimum GPA is now 3.5 for a chance to attend. That pretty much eliminates any thugs not serious about schoolwork.

What was the previous requirement? If it was like a 4.2 or something, can you not see how that might be out of reach for most people not from a supportive, wealthy, two parent home which would probably tend to skew white?

Seems to me they changed the criteria to at least give more people who had worked hard a fair shot. Whether it’s the right long term move for the school should be pretty obvious in the coming years.

 
Old 06-24-2021, 04:32 PM
 
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Quote from above https://wtop.com/alexandria/2020/10/...sions-process/: "The proposal would change admissions from being test-based to a lottery system that would require a 3.5 GPA." [END QUOTE]

Not all 3.5 GPA's are alike. There was a news article about a year ago (I think) in which a high school valedictorian was completely unprepared for college because her 4.0 G.P.A. was so inferior to other kids from other schools whose G.P.A. was not nearly as high. If memory serves, she ended up taking remedial math because her high school's math classes were so poor that she was lacking in even some basic math skills (as hard as that is to believe).
Absolutely! The students getting a 3.5 in a marginal, poor-performing school are now eligible for the lottery, competing with the best and brightest. The only thing is, the entire school will drop down, so the best and brightest only number 100, so it might not be as hard in the new “dumb-downed” TJ.

As I said, the ones who pay the price are the top 101 - 500 students, who WOULD have gotten in under the old system, and will now be thrown in with the lottery.
 
Old 06-24-2021, 04:33 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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So the minimum GPA is now 3.5 for a chance to attend. That pretty much eliminates any thugs not serious about schoolwork.

What was the previous requirement? If it was like a 4.2 or something, can you not see how that might be out of reach for most people not from a supportive, wealthy, two parent home which would probably tend to skew white?

Seems to me they changed the criteria to at least give more people who had worked hard a fair shot.
Just a heads up-Whites are not even close to being the largest demographic at that school and haven't been for a couple decades.
 
Old 06-24-2021, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Biden told us that poor kids (minorities) are just as smart and talented as white kids so why are they lowering the standards?

Is China, Russia or anywhere else lowering the standards of their top schools to accommodate young adults that might not be interested in going to the prestigious schools? I really doubt it.



Not everyone is cut out for college and not everyone can or should be heading to an elite school.



I just don't understand why the Democrats do not hoist up Obama as THE EXAMPLE to every black kid out there as to just how far you can go if you are smart and work hard? Why didn't Obama make himself an example to rise to? Instead the Democrats seem content to allow blacks and other minorities to wallow in a fictitious world where systemic racism, oppression and discrimination keeps them perpetually poor and down trodden.



Lowering the standards is ridiculous when they should be challenging these young people to rise to the requirements. Lowering the standards is a form of discrimination because they are essentially saying to all those black kids that you will never be smart enough to earn it. How sad.
 
Old 06-24-2021, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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From the linked article –

Scott Brabrand, the superintendent who proposed the change, told the school board: “There are other ways beyond a test to be sure that we can support making sure that students can be successful at TJ.”

And he proposes a lottery.
 
Old 06-24-2021, 04:36 PM
 
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So the minimum GPA is now 3.5 for a chance to attend. That pretty much eliminates any thugs not serious about schoolwork.

What was the previous requirement? If it was like a 4.2 or something, can you not see how that might be out of reach for most people not from a supportive, wealthy, two parent home which would probably tend to skew white?

Seems to me they changed the criteria to at least give more people who had worked hard a fair shot.
But they made it worse for a lot of the top students who now will give up a superior education which they otherwise would have had if liberals weren’t so upset by all the Asians and whites.

And why assume that the whites and Asians are all from wealthy families? Plenty of bright white students from poor backgrounds too, and now they’ll have to give up their seats to someone less academically accomplished.

It is PUNISHING whites.
 
Old 06-24-2021, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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But they made it worse for a lot of the top students who now will give up a superior education which they otherwise would have had if liberals weren’t so upset by all the Asians and whites.

And why assume that the whites and Asians are all from wealthy families? Plenty of bright white students from poor backgrounds too, and now they’ll have to give up their seats to someone less academically accomplished.

It is PUNISHING whites.
The top 100 slots still go to the top 100 performers. It’s just not all 500 anymore. Also, according to the article the official GPA requirement was not lowered. Previously it was 3.5 as well, but since all 500 seats went to the top 500 based on merit, that probably made the effective GPA requirement much higher than 3.5.
 
Old 06-24-2021, 04:45 PM
 
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The top 100 slots still go to the top 100 performers. It’s just not all 500 anymore. Also, according to the article the official GPA requirement was not lowered. Previously it was 3.5 as well, but since all 500 seats went to the top 500 based on merit, that probably made the effective GPA requirement much higher than 3.5.
And that’s the problem! Why SHOULDN’T it go to the top 500 performers? This had been a prestigious school, with the reputation of having the smartest kids in the county. I’m sure that fact was not lost on colleges to which these kids apply.

And you even admit admission was based on merit previously, so that the GPA naturally averaged much higher. Now that they’re skipping the merit idea (except for the top 100) in the interest of getting more blacks and Latinos, it’s no longer about merit. It is a conscious decision to lower the caliber of the school for reasons of race and diversity.
 
Old 06-24-2021, 04:46 PM
 
Location: STL area
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So they are going to “punish” all these white and Asian kids with attending their highly rated home schools? A public school like this should be primarily lottery based for all kids who meet the minimum standard. Every family in that district is paying taxes for this school and the home schools are mostly high performing. They aren’t being sent back to failing schools.
 
Old 06-24-2021, 04:46 PM
 
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Ah...the bigotry of low expectations.

Negros couldn't possibly get in this school so we'll have to make it easier for them /s
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