Admission Bias at NYC's Most Prestigious Public Schools? (generation, controversial, Hispanics)
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Because of the controversial bias aspect/tone posting this here instead of Education forum.
"In a Sunday opinion piece in The New York Times, lefty intellectual Richard D. Kahlenberg condemns the admissions practices of New York City’s eight highly-selective public schools for admitting a lower number of black and Latino students than he wants. For some reason, Kahlenberg fails to mention that students who self-identify as Asian overwhelmingly make up the majority of the students at the three most prestigious of these schools."
Stuyvesant - 72.5% Asian
Bronx Science - 62% Asian
Brooklyn Tech - 60% Asian
Unrelated to the black/latino bias in NYC school article, my question is:
Why aren't public schools actively trying to hire/recruit more Asian teachers and principals if Asians hold the key to excellence in education? Maybe it's too late for high schoolers but how about at elementary schools? Maybe they should hire them from overseas if enough here aren't applying for teaching positions.
Because the only way to get more Hispanic and Black kids into the schools is to restrict the number of Asians. Those Asians need to quit studying and doing well on racial biased tests.
Because of the controversial bias aspect/tone posting this here instead of Education forum.
"In a Sunday opinion piece in The New York Times, lefty intellectual Richard D. Kahlenberg condemns the admissions practices of New York City’s eight highly-selective public schools for admitting a lower number of black and Latino students than he wants. For some reason, Kahlenberg fails to mention that students who self-identify as Asian overwhelmingly make up the majority of the students at the three most prestigious of these schools."
Stuyvesant - 72.5% Asian
Bronx Science - 62% Asian
Brooklyn Tech - 60% Asian
Unrelated to the black/latino bias in NYC school article, my question is:
Why aren't public schools actively trying to hire/recruit more Asian teachers and principals if Asians hold the key to excellence in education? Maybe it's too late for high schoolers but how about at elementary schools? Maybe they should hire them from overseas if enough here aren't applying for teaching positions.
The left wants mediocre schools so they can create the next generation of government dependents
Because of the controversial bias aspect/tone posting this here instead of Education forum.
"In a Sunday opinion piece in The New York Times, lefty intellectual Richard D. Kahlenberg condemns the admissions practices of New York City’s eight highly-selective public schools for admitting a lower number of black and Latino students than he wants. For some reason, Kahlenberg fails to mention that students who self-identify as Asian overwhelmingly make up the majority of the students at the three most prestigious of these schools."
Stuyvesant - 72.5% Asian
Bronx Science - 62% Asian
Brooklyn Tech - 60% Asian
Unrelated to the black/latino bias in NYC school article, my question is:
Why aren't public schools actively trying to hire/recruit more Asian teachers and principals if Asians hold the key to excellence in education? Maybe it's too late for high schoolers but how about at elementary schools? Maybe they should hire them from overseas if enough here aren't applying for teaching positions.
Why are you associating Asians as the "key to excellence in education?" The article says nothing about that. And I don't see educators saying we need more Asians in education.
The simple unpleasant truth for people like Kahlenberg is that Asian families raise their children from birth to excel in school. Because of that these children do well in class, do well on tests, and are positioned very well to gain entry into selective schools.
This whole debate is bizarre. There are quite a few under utilized school buildings in NYC. So much so that charters often use them. Why not create another admission based high school based on the holistic approach favored by DeBlasio as opposed to toying with schools that already work?
Generally speaking, schools with higher Asian student populations tend to have better scores than schools with fewer Asians. Remove the Asian achievesrs and the scores are more reflective of the general population.
Seems to me that people prefer to blame schools instead of taking personal responsibility for educational outcomes. And by this I don't mean home schooling.
Over the years I have worked with many inbound relocating Asian families. The parents have significantly higher expectations of their children than most non Asians. Those in the states on a corporate rotation tend to send their children to part time private Asian Schools so that their children do not fall behind upon returning home. Education is a 7 day a week family commitment.
The student populations in US schools is substantially more diverse than any other nation. NY schools are substantially more diverse than any others in the US. Students present with more than 200 different native languages and customs. Given the diversity it is unreasonable to compare US schools with higher performing nations with a common culture where failure is viewed as family shame. Here, it seems too many prefer to blame the schools, liberals, unions- anything and everything other than holding themselves responsible for their children's outcomes.
Generally speaking, schools with higher Asian student populations tend to have better scores than schools with fewer Asians. Remove the Asian achievesrs and the scores are more reflective of the general population.
Seems to me that people prefer to blame schools instead of taking personal responsibility for educational outcomes. And by this I don't mean home schooling.
Over the years I have worked with many inbound relocating Asian families. The parents have significantly higher expectations of their children than most non Asians. Those in the states on a corporate rotation tend to send their children to part time private Asian Schools so that their children do not fall behind upon returning home. Education is a 7 day a week commitment.
The student populations in US schools is substantially more diverse than any other nation. NY schools are substantially more diverse than any others in the US. Students present with more than 200 different native languages and customs. Given the diversity it is unreasonable to compare US schools with higher performing nations with a common culture where failure is viewed as family shame. Here, it seems too many prefer to blame the schools, liberals, unions- anything and everything other than holding themselves responsible for their children's outcomes.
Scores have a pattern...
Asians,Whites, Hispanics, Blacks in that order.
Asians and Whites have a small gap.
Then there is a huge gap between Whites and Hispanics.
Hispanics and Blacks have a small gap.
Demographics make the learning community.
So far I've only been in one school that was truly "diverse" with an equal percentage of all races.
Most schools are not diverse when one group is a majority of the student population.
Very few individual schools are "diverse".
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