America’s Bluest State Loves Its Republican Governor

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by hooligan

As seen right here in this very thread. Look at all the cries of "RINO" and the like.

Indeed. Whenever I hear someone say "RINO", that tells me about the type of mentality involved. It's more about "he's not to the far right like we would like him to be".

[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by ottomobeale

I know. I used to be a Republican. Then life happened and the GOP became a conservative peen size contest. I wont join the Democratic party. They went the other way.

Most sane people are forced to choose between two crazies.

One reason I would love to see ranked choice voting and jungle primaries along with a lobbying ban and strict time/ money limits on campaigns.

July 1 national primary. Top 5 advance to the general election.

Yes I know this would require an amendment to the constitution.

It would require the two parties to vote for their own demise and let the voters have the power. That is never going to happen. For all the faux fighting between the two parties and most of it is for show. They are both fine with having only one competitor.


What I do not get is how partisans on both sides do not get they are being played. Its like "1984" and the fake war that was always going on. The enemy is always the other party and never the fact the two parties control everything.

[NoHyping]

Originally Posted by Oldhag1

And we have a popular Democratic Governor here in blood red Kentucky. The thing both governors share is that they are true moderates, believe in comprise, move on when their legislature votes down a policy they were promoting, reach out to leaders in the opposing party, and in my mind the biggest factor, are legitimately focused on what’s best for the people of their state. In other words, they are leaders first and politicians second.

Scott and my Beshear are not the only ones, the article points out Maryland’s Hogan and Massachusetts’ Barker, but there are more. Romney fit in that category when he was Massachusetts’ governor. Bipartisanship is welcome in governors, it used to be welcome in presidents and is a true shame it no longer is. We could have had a President Kaisich or President Webb in 2016, unfortunately they couldn’t get past the primary to make it to the general election. That needs to be fixed.

I agree totally here as a Moderate myself feeling too often pushed to the left with all the extremism especially in the forum and of course..... 4 yrs of Donald Trump I voted for in 2016 by a hair from all the negative Cliinton hysteria near election time that did have me ultimately not vote for her over it.

I saw sooooo many awesome GOP prospective candidates in the debates leading to the 2016 choosing of the GOP nominee and wanted Kaisich as a moderate Republican to get it. What a difference a Moderate Republican President could have made in National and International affairs I think ..... but we cannot go back in time and see how what-ifs could have changed history.

Now any Moderate Republican and even Reagan-era ones are just labeled RINO'S if they could not profess total love to Donald Trump and Donald literally calls for their ouster and defeat by name.

Moderate Republicans can get Democrats behind them. Sadly, today ..... any Democrat gets a label of hating America, socialist to commies and is shows in this forum. There is far more then Donald Trump and until we pass that era.... sadly this split will fester by Conspiracy Theories never ending.

Today we see Chinese media promoting China needs to race for more nukes and increased military and a Russia taking a hard line and all we do is blame half of America itself. Russia showing its own Military build-up and leave extremism promoted here in the US as another means to weaken us and it is working from the inside out sadly..... to their advantage.

A US in disunity is seeded and fed to a frenzie that is basically where this forum takes it. Few threads even go into any meaningful discussion on things over constant rhetoric post, demonizing to not merely disagreeing and nothing is agreeably. It is disagreeing by hating, opposing with what might lead to a so divided Union it cannot survive intact. I still hope I do not live to see it.

It would be great if Moderates could rule the day and find compromising far more beneficial to be Prideful in our Nation.... because hating half of our own population serves nothing but our own demise from within.

Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound

It would require the two parties to vote for their own demise and let the voters have the power. That is never going to happen. For all the faux fighting between the two parties and most of it is for show. They are both fine with having only one competitor.

What I do not get is how partisans on both sides do not get they are being played. Its like "1984" and the fake war that was always going on. The enemy is always the other party and never the fact the two parties control everything.

Sadly, in this forum ..... I originally saw it as some faux fighting and just venting, but the extremism I read here loathing liberals of any kind and even nearly half of GOP politicians all over one man.... I do believe the divide can only show a moderation if a calamity or war of sorts can Unite us. As time goes.... we show more and more signs of imploding from within and I will live to see it.

[Ohiogirl81]

Originally Posted by Sumerian_Summer

Democrats tend to vote based on emotion, not based on reason or logic.
The anti-Trump hatred was almost entirely emotional, not policy or reason based.

LMAO. What is logical about supporting Trump? Of course, it's perfectly obvious that all those Trump flag-waving MAGAs have logic and reason at the forefront.

[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by NoHyping

Sadly, in this forum ..... I originally saw it as some faux fighting and just venting, but the extremism I read here loathing liberals of any kind and even nearly half of GOP politicians all over one man.... I do believe the divide can only show a moderation if a calamity or war of sorts can Unite us. As time goes.... we show more and more signs of imploding from within and I will live to see it.

The fighting here is real. As it is by many voters. I was talking about the party leadership on both sides. This is like how pro wrestling was. Its a show but but they knew how to keep people engaged. Washington is one big country club for the elites on both sides. They relate a lot more to each other than the people who vote for them.