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Old 05-20-2021, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Israel doesn't want to just exist. They want it all and then some.
I'm sure some Cherokee chief said this once upon a time about someone else.


"Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must." - Thucydides
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Old 05-20-2021, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Israel doesn't want to just exist. They want it all and then some.
No, that is your personal opinion and disdain for Israel which I don't agree with but you have the right to feel how you feel.
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Old 05-20-2021, 05:41 PM
 
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No, that is your personal opinion and disdain for Israel which I don't agree with but you have the right to feel how you feel.
My opinion has nothing to do with the information that is out there about Israel's conflicts over the years. Avail yourself or not. Doesn't matter to me.
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Old 05-20-2021, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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My opinion has nothing to do with the information that is out there about Israel's conflicts over the years. Avail yourself or not. Doesn't matter to me.
Information from where? It doesn't matter to me either. I said what I said, I don't have to time to educate ignorant people. At least if I am wrong about something I research why. You should try it sometime.
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Old 05-20-2021, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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No, that is your personal opinion and disdain for Israel which I don't agree with but you have the right to feel how you feel.
To be fair, Israel really does want everything. We all do. Israel isn't going to give up an inch unless forced, and they'll "settle" anything they can get away with. That's just reality. Israel looks nothing like the 1947 UN partition plan, and Israel would never in a million years agree to those borders today.

Israel is just pursuing its national interests. I'm not even convinced Israel wants peace, because that would put an end to the settlements. Someone posted a video the other day of a Jew claiming that all the Jewish newspapers talk about is war. Who Israel and/or America needs to go to war with next. They really really want a war with Iran. Netanyahu has been begging America to go to war with Iran for like 30 years. Claiming the entire time that Iran will have a nuke any day now.

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Old 05-20-2021, 06:01 PM
 
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Information from where? It doesn't matter to me either. I said what I said, I don't have to time to educate ignorant people. At least if I am wrong about something I research why. You should try it sometime.
Leftists are ALL about Emotion and what they hear in their Echo Chambers.
You can drag a Jack Rear to water, but no way to force them to drink.
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Old 05-20-2021, 06:04 PM
 
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Israel doesn't want to just exist. They want it all and then some.
..and the rest of them? The ones still claiming Israel is on their land?....what do they want
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Old 05-20-2021, 06:06 PM
 
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Hamas does not want piece. The Palestinian people don't have a say in this conflict. But Israel has the right to exist and the right to defend herself, at all costs.
, and we need to not interfere in that process.
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Old 05-20-2021, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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And yet he has served as the Prime Minister of Israel continuously since 2009, without interruption.
I guess times are changing and this time he didn't win....
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Old 05-20-2021, 06:25 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Israel doesn't want to just exist. They want it all and then some.
That is a bold statement considering history. They gave Egypt back a piece of land 3 times the size of the current Israel, in exchange for peace.


They offered the Palestinians all of Gaza, all of the West Bank, and, And, AND, East Jerusalem, to form their own state in exchange for peace. All Arafat had to do was sign on the dotted line. Instead, he chose an intifada.

They are never going to be offered a better deal than that, but they threw it all away because that would have meant they recognize Israel's right to exist. That would have meant giving up the hope that they would one day have ALL of Israel.

The day they did that, was the day Israel lost hope of a 2 state solution. So here we are.


Arafat's widow has made statements that this was Arafat's biggest mistake. And she is right.
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