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Your thesis is faulty. DJ got 47% of the popular vote with a 46% approval rating. He hasn't had a 35% approval rating, ever. His lowest was 36% way back in 18.
Correct. His overall approval rating was likely high 40s or maybe even more. And this is what he got in the popular vote.
These "35%" polls are put out by the same people that said Biden would win Wisconsin by 17 points the week before the election when he actually won by a fraction of 1%.
They are suppression polls and were part of the strategy that Big Media, Big Tech, Big DC, and Big Business had in wresting power from the people and giving it back to the establishment.
Correct. His overall approval rating was likely high 40s or maybe even more. And this is what he got in the popular vote.
These "35%" polls are put out by the same people that said Biden would win Wisconsin by 17 points the week before the election when he actually won by a fraction of 1%.
They are suppression polls and were part of the strategy that Big Media, Big Tech, Big DC, and Big Business had in wresting power from the people and giving it back to the establishment.
I don’t think aggregate polling numbers ever had Trump close to a 50% approval rating.
Thus, I’m left to conclude that approval ratings are largely irrelevant in determining one’s overall odds of winning national elections. And perhaps there’s some degree of bias built into the approval numbers we see.
~35-40% approval ratings (even from multiple sources) essentially mean nothing in regards to national election odds.
But, again your premise is still made up. Approval ratings vs. popular vote share metric is always compared in a timeframe leading up to the elections. That's how they're quoted.
Approval ratings do matter--leading up to the election. Every single president's popular vote share in modern times has come within one percentage points of the average of his approval rating right leading up to the election. That's a fact.
Four year average approval rating, especially after the election is never used as a metric to gauge the worthiness of approval rating vs. popular vote share. And, if Trump had an approval rating of 38% right before the election, he would have lost by 18-20 points.
Many times the polsters polled 2/3 democrats .. those polls were fake as well. They did everything to bring Trump down.
Even cheated .....lied and used fraud votes .
Trump won Ohio and Florida by a great margin. Many democrat counties had more votes than voters. There is an evil presence that put Biden in... the destroyer will destroy AMerica and Americans for lying and cheating.
For most of the Trump presidency we heard dems claiming that Trump only had a ~35% approval rating — consisting of mostly far-right racist whackos.
However, the election was ultimately decided by ~44k votes over 3 states. And Trump received more votes than any sitting president in history.
Did Trump prove that approval ratings are hard to gauge or mostly irrelevant? I see no other possible conclusion.
"...the election was ultimately decided by ~44k votes over 3 states."
That's the point. It was close in those three states only, not over the whole country. If it wasn't for the Electoral College the election wouldn't have been considered close at all. Ultimately, even the bias of the Electoral College was not enough to overcome Trump's low numbers which reflected his ongoing low ratings.
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Originally Posted by paracord
He also got the most votes in history for a sitting president.
And Biden got the most votes in history for a presidential candidate–more than 80 million.
That’s like saying a basketball team lost by 10 rebounds.
Popular votes is irrelevant.
I like the effort in trying to be intellectual but please don't tell someone else what is relevant vs. irrelevant.
Why would you compare approval rating (i.e. popular vote) to the electoral college?
Why would you then make the leap to Trump getting more votes (i.e. popular vote) than any sitting president?
On the positive side, it's refreshing to see people coming to terms with the fact that Trump lost and it wasn't a "stolen election".
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