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Old 01-30-2021, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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They tried to make the argument that its common sense for people to wear masks to protect others from their respiratory droplets. If that's really true, they would have been wearing masks their whole lives.

Rowingfiend is correct. People wear masks because they are told to wear masks, and for no other reason.
Not if it wasn’t part of the culture (and it hasn’t been). There’s a lot of things we do which make sense, but which we didn’t necessarily do before.

I wasn’t told to wear a mask - and in fact here in Texas, not many people do. I wear it because it DOES make sense, and I prefer to lead by example.

I think it’s also true that there’s a self-fulfilling prophecy here: you don’t like wearing a mask because you’re told to...so the government tells you to do it more.

It’s fundamentally not about the government, or how you feel. It’s about having a care for someone beyond yourself. Neighbors and community, etc. My pa is recovering from Cancer and he’s dead if he gets covid. The more I’m around people like you, the more my own community is putting him at risk. That’s just wrong.

 
Old 01-30-2021, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Crook County, Hellinois
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Australia and New Zealand are having a very normal summer because they effectively tackled the virus and controlled it. Republicans want our country to be mired in this pandemic to hurt Biden and the democrats, even if it takes out thousands more people.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Democrats inflated the Covid numbers, exaggerated the dangers of a banal flu, staged empty refrigerated trucks outside of hospitals to provide fear porn for the media, shut everything down to wreck the economy, created a real pandemic of anxiety and depression, hired rent-a-mobs to vandalize and loot our downtowns, and provided those criminals with piles of bricks. All for one purpose and one purpose only: to hurt Big Bad Orange Man.

Meanwhile, Republicans tried to keep the economy open and people working, and wanted hydroxychrolo-whatsit to be given to the public at a nominal cost as viable Covid treatment. But no! Them liberals would have none of it! They wanted America to be mired in poverty and misery until Orange Man is voted out, in order to frame him for everything.
 
Old 01-30-2021, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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It is not disinformation. First, over 80% of the people infected don't even have symptoms. COVID-19 is only dangerous to a couple groups. Ask Cuomo because he knows who those groups are and where they live.
The asymptomatic people are why it is important to wear your mask. Tell me what age group you are in and why you think you are not at risk.
 
Old 01-30-2021, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Boston
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There will never be a time in a Biden administration when masks will be optional. You can get vaccinated 10X and that will never change.
 
Old 01-30-2021, 08:44 PM
 
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Not if it wasn’t part of the culture (and it hasn’t been). There’s a lot of things we do which make sense, but which we didn’t necessarily do before.

I wasn’t told to wear a mask - and in fact here in Texas, not many people do. I wear it because it DOES make sense,
If It's common sense, why didn't you do it before Covid19? Will you please consider and answer this?

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and I prefer to lead by example.
Respectfully, you can't effectively lead if you are deceived or spiritually blind. If you try to do so in that condition, you will be hurting people, not helping them.

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I think it’s also true that there’s a self-fulfilling prophecy here: you don’t like wearing a mask because you’re told to...so the government tells you to do it more.
I don't wear the mask. That's what this thread is all about- encouraging others to do the right thing.

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It’s fundamentally not about the government, or how you feel. It’s about having a care for someone beyond yourself. Neighbors and community, etc. My pa is recovering from Cancer and he’s dead if he gets covid. The more I’m around people like you, the more my own community is putting him at risk. That’s just wrong.
Think about what you are saying. You are saying that you being around a healthy person without a mask will somehow put your pa at risk. That's not a reasonable conclusion to draw. I would even say that your conclusion is so out there, so divorced from the way that most people used to think, that the only way you came to it was by believing what someone else told you. Please consider this.
 
Old 01-30-2021, 08:48 PM
 
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The asymptomatic people are why it is important to wear your mask. Tell me what age group you are in and why you think you are not at risk.
That's a bold claim. Now prove it.
 
Old 01-30-2021, 08:54 PM
 
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Such a hardship to wear 3 plies of paper over your face lol. I can't believe people actually go ape **** over wearing a mask.
 
Old 01-30-2021, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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If It's common sense, why didn't you do it before Covid19? Will you please consider and answer this?



Respectfully, you can't effectively lead if you are deceived or spiritually blind. If you try to do so in that condition, you will be hurting people, not helping them.



I don't wear the mask. That's what this thread is all about- encouraging others to do the right thing.



Think about what you are saying. You are saying that you being around a healthy person without a mask will somehow put your pa at risk. That's not a reasonable conclusion to draw. I would even say that your conclusion is so out there, so divorced from the way that most people used to think, that the only way you came to it was by believing what someone else told you. Please consider this.
1. As I said, it wasn’t a part of our culture. I probably will stay masked like many Asians do. Lesson learned on my part.

2. Not sure how wearing a mask is hurting anybody.

3. Doing the right thing has some kind of different meaning for you and I, clearly.

4. I do work and have to deal with the public. The concern is bringing it home to him, a concern made more real by folks who choose not to do the simple things it takes to prevent lockdowns while also keeping the spread under control. And, the whole point is that my Pa isn’t healthy at all. Not wearing a mask is a selfish choice. Think about your neighbors and community. People do this all the time. Some go to HOAs where a sub-government unit enforced cleanliness. Others schmooze and network, looking out for each other by recruiting. Us car guys give each other first dibs on prime buys, put out PSAs on stolen cars, or give input on questions of a car isn’t a good buy. We create communities with each other as social animals, it’s how we are. That’s the best way to think about masks and other precautions, IMHO.
 
Old 01-30-2021, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Crook County, Hellinois
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There will never be a time in a Biden administration when masks will be optional. You can get vaccinated 10X and that will never change.
Our only hope is turning the House and the Senate red in 2022. Lawmaking begins in the House and ends in the Senate. The president is basically a figurehead who vetoes stuff. And we have Amy Coney Barrett, a tough, stand-up woman, on our side. Once we vote the Dems out of Congress, that's when we can finally end the plandemic, stop wearings masks, and start practicing social closeness. Otherwise, Winston Smith from "1984" will be feeling sorry for us.

That being said, I already practice social closeness with my conservative friends. We shake hands (two men) and hug (two women or men/women) at meeting and parting, and we hang out together indoors; so far, nothing happened to any of us. I no longer talk to any of my former liberal friends.
 
Old 01-30-2021, 09:03 PM
 
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1. As I said, it wasn’t a part of our culture. I probably will stay masked like many Asians do. Lesson learned on my part.
No, that's not what you said. You didn't say that you didn't wear the mask because of culture. You said you did wear the mask because of common sense.

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2. Not sure how wearing a mask is hurting anybody.
It hurts and offends those of us that know the truth. It causes health problems. It is harmful to our children.

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3. Doing the right thing has some kind of different meaning for you and I, clearly.
Well, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just say that at this time, you are deceived.

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4. I do work and have to deal with the public. The concern is bringing it home to him, a concern made more real by folks who choose not to do the simple things it takes to prevent lockdowns while also keeping the spread under control. And, the whole point is that my Pa isn’t healthy at all. Not wearing a mask is a selfish choice. Think about your neighbors and community. People do this all the time. Some go to HOAs where a sub-government unit enforced cleanliness. Others schmooze and network, looking out for each other by recruiting. Us car guys give each other first dibs on prime buys, put out PSAs on stolen cars, or give input on questions of a car isn’t a good buy. We create communities with each other as social animals, it’s how we are. That’s the best way to think about masks and other precautions, IMHO
You realize that you sound like a walking CDC or Who commercial, right? These are not your own ideas. They are 'company line' platitudes that you have adopted as your own. You have swallowed their lies and their rhetoric.
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