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Old 11-07-2020, 10:54 AM
 
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At least in my case, the behavior of the left for the last four years has made me determined to vote against the Democratic party for the rest of my life. I challenge each and every Democratic voter to think of the fact that I will personally cancel out your vote as long as I live. With good health, that could easily be 40 or 50 more years. I spent a good long time filling out careful ballots, researching candidates and deciding on who should best represent me. After a circus impeachment, dragging a Supreme Court justice through the mud with no evidence, politicizing a pandemic, encouraging and inciting race riots on a false narrative, endorsing identity politics, and falsely condemning the nation's founding and history as evil and racist, I am done with what used to be the Democratic Party.
Just about everything You’re whining about can be turned around on republicans.

Ie Look at the Clinton impeachment.
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:55 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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You mean someone that is a weak door-mat like GWB, McCain or Romney-all of whom the media walked all over, gave zero respect to and lied about just as much as they did Trump? I don't like Trump, specifically his personality. But given the bias and lack of decency in our media, frankly it takes an a-hole to get anywhere as a Republican. In spite of 4 years of constant attacks, fake news and bias from the news-Trump still ran an incredibly close race. Imaging if the media were even close to neutral-Joe would still be hiding in his basement.
absolutely true!!
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Old 11-07-2020, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I think a conservative, be they Republican, Libertarian or the few conservatives left in the Democrat Party, still stands for fiscal responsibility and balanced budgets. Stopping on this point for a second, wanting fiscal responsibility and balanced budgets is the goal. You can't be so doctrinaire (Paul & Cruz) that you try to shut down the government. You have to take what is available, even if it is just 5% of what you want; you have to show willingness to work together to keep the process moving.

Second, conservatives stand for fair taxes. That often means lowering taxes and simplifying the tax code after Democrats have raised taxes and muddled up the tax code.

Third, fair trade. In the past we'd have called it "free trade", but only the U.S. side was "free"; our trading "partners" were still protectionist.

Fourth, respecting immigration laws and borders and enforcing and strengthening the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli Act that was SUPPOSED to be the one time amnesty in exchange for laws so tough that future illegal immigration would be impossible.

Fifth, appointing federal judges that don't write new laws, but rule based on a laws text and intent.

Six, unwavering support for democracies like Israel, Taiwan, Ukraine, etc and opposition to communist regimes like Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, etc.

Seven, lead the world from in front, not "leading from behind".
So, with the exception of balancing the budget-everything that Trump did, or at the least tried to do? Now-I do question the "unwavering support for democracy". Does that mean using our military to fight their battles for them, or simply supporting and recognizing them?

I do agree with your comments and support those positions. I wish Trump could have reigned in federal spending-which was out of control even before the pandemic hit. In terms of spending he was no better than Obama. Granted, without the pandemic and with the economic and tax revenue growth we were seeing-we'd likely be closer to a balanced budget than any time in recent history.
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Old 11-07-2020, 12:04 PM
 
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The Right won't see any real power against for another 8-12 years. You can bet on that
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Old 11-07-2020, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Georgiafrog View Post
At least in my case, the behavior of the left for the last four years has made me determined to vote against the Democratic party for the rest of my life. I challenge each and every Democratic voter to think of the fact that I will personally cancel out your vote as long as I live. With good health, that could easily be 40 or 50 more years. I spent a good long time filling out careful ballots, researching candidates and deciding on who should best represent me. After a circus impeachment, dragging a Supreme Court justice through the mud with no evidence, politicizing a pandemic, encouraging and inciting race riots on a false narrative, endorsing identity politics, and falsely condemning the nation's founding and history as evil and racist, I am done with what used to be the Democratic Party.
It depends on which state you live in. If you're in Florida, my vote will cancel yours. (Your name says Georgia but who knows.)
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Old 11-07-2020, 12:04 PM
 
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Just about everything You’re whining about can be turned around on republicans.

Ie Look at the Clinton impeachment.
While it was obvious that the Clinton impeachment wasn't going to go anywhere, note that some Democrats DID vote to impeach him in the House.
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Old 11-07-2020, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
So, with the exception of balancing the budget-everything that Trump did, or at the least tried to do? Now-I do question the "unwavering support for democracy". Does that mean using our military to fight their battles for them, or simply supporting and recognizing them?
Not necessarily fighting their battles for them, but maybe with them, in some cases. At the very least it means providing lethal aid in the form of weapons systems, planes, etc. What the Obama Administration did on the Russian invasion of Ukraine was feckless.
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Old 11-07-2020, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Broke the GOP? As of right now Trump, even losing has more votes than Barrack Obama ever got in an election and 5 million more than Hillary got 4 years ago.
That's due to 2 reasons:

Higher overall turnout
Population increase
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Old 11-07-2020, 02:17 PM
 
Location: USA
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No, the Republicans will be just fine.
We'll wait for the dust to settle, and then get to work, just as we did in 2008 and 2012.
The mid-terms in 2022 aren't far off.
Neither is 2024.
Long live the GOP!
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Old 11-07-2020, 02:20 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Google Dumpster fire to see who was broken. The Democrats were in tears.
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