Protesters Storm Michigan State House (Arizona, welfare, workers, women)

[Pilot1]

Originally Posted by ringwise

Not even close.

terrorism (n): the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

This protest was lawful. It's allowed under our Constitutional Rights.

There was no violence.

There was no intimidation.

It was not against civilians. It was against our government. Something that is allowed in our Constitution.

It was not for political purposes. It was to protest overreach by our government.

Just because you are terrified of guns, and tremble in fear at the mere sight of one, carrying one does not make you a terrorist.

And our country thought that it was so important that CITIZENS (not subjects) be able to carry a gun in public that they codified that Right to GUARANTEE it could not be taken away by Government. In fact the prioritized it #2 behind Free Speech. The other RIGHT the LEFTIST Progressive wants to take away from Citizens.

[scarabchuck]

Originally Posted by trobesmom

You can't kill somebody by burning an American flag. People who carry guns in public are terrorists. Period.

How so ? Using your logic, those that protest are as well. Why do you hate our Constitution and the rights it provides ?

My wife and I carry on a regular basis, I've even open carried when at our rural cottage up north. Neither of us are terrorists.

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by hawk55732

Carrying firearms, yes, nothing wrong with that. Carrying Trump signs, yes, whats wrong with that? Confederate flag, unfortunately yes but there were many more US flags there. As for social distancing, I see less of that at Target and groceries stores then at that protest and from the pictures I saw, many of them were wearing masks.

The fact that none of these things are illegal doesn't make it right.

[scarabchuck]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

The fact that none of these things are illegal doesn't make it right.

There is no right or wrong in this. Zero laws where broken. Only in your opinion is it wrong.

That being said, I don't agree with what they did, but that is my opinion, they are free to what they wanted.

I personally think they should have looked at the bigger picture. Now they gave the media the baton to club them with, they should have known better.

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by yspobo

All of that can happen with the flu too. They don't shut the world down for other viruses.

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

It's astounding this far into the pandemic that people have to be reminded that this is NOT the flu.

Let's see, deaths from flu, check
Deaths from virus, check


Shut down work production during flu seasons - no
Shut down work production during virus season - yes


You're right this is not the flu, however is causes death just the same.

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

Nope, just corruption:

Thomas Jefferson, Epidemics and His Vision for American Cities

"Thomas Jefferson was not only the author of the Declaration of Independence and the third president of the United States, but also an agrarian visionary who wanted America to be a nation of small family farms. Jefferson’s distaste for cities is well known. He called them “pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.” To his closest friend, James Madison, he wrote in 1787, the year of the American Constitution, “When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as in Europe.”"

Originally Posted by mkpunk

I am not surprised. Most of our founding fathers didn't live in cities I can only think of say the Addams and Franklin that were in cities. Many of our early presidents didn't. That said, mostly today's towns are what were cities back then for the most part. New York was in no way a skyscraper jungle until after the Civil War.

He thought that disease like yellow fever, in which he experienced in his life time, spread more often easier in dense population because of how they take care of their waste ... He also thought that dense population bred corruption, again, his opinion based on his experiences. He could be right.

[yspobo]

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

It's astounding this far into the pandemic that people have to be reminded that this is NOT the flu.

Never said it was the flu.

[mkpunk]

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

He thought that disease like yellow fever, in which he experienced in his life time, spread more often easier in dense population because of how they take care of their waste ... He also thought that dense population bred corruption, again, his opinion based on his experiences. He could be right.

Perhaps but if that is where the jobs are...

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by scarabchuck

There is no right or wrong in this. Zero laws where broken. Only in your opinion is it wrong.

That being said, I don't agree with what they did, but that is my opinion, they are free to what they wanted.

I personally think they should have looked at the bigger picture. Now they gave the media the baton to club them with, they should have known better.

Most would agree with the fact that bringing a gun, Trump hats, confederate flag and crowding together is wrong, call it opinion if you want. If you want respect then act like your cause is meaningful rather than pretending your at a pep rally.

I still haven't heard the exact details on what they want other than in general terms.

[Chicano3000X]