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Old 02-23-2019, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Just about every democrat-controlled city in America in the last 50 years, it appears.



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Old 02-23-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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It's not fixable. Sorry.
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:44 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Median household income of just over $68,000 is NOT "middle class"?
MAN! Those Fox News hosts sure have a messed up view of the world.


https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income/illinois/chicago/

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Old 02-23-2019, 10:03 AM
 
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Those middle-of-the-road white conservatives that make up the midwest do it to themselves. They decide that they don't want a blatantly right candidate but a "social liberal and fiscal conservative" that then turns fully left (like they always do) and passes laws that protect and give sanctuary to illegals, raise taxes to inconceivable heights to pay for social services, and strips parents of the right to send their child to the schools of their choice. Then they end up moving to right wing suburbs and institute the same process until it happens again.
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Old 02-23-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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Those middle-of-the-road white conservatives that make up the midwest do it to themselves. They decide that they don't want a blatantly right candidate but a "social liberal and fiscal conservative" that then turns fully left (like they always do) and passes laws that protect and give sanctuary to illegals, raise taxes to inconceivable heights to pay for social services, and strips parents of the right to send their child to the schools of their choice. Then they end up moving to right wing suburbs and institute the same process until it happens again.
You're not wrong. I do think a lot of it falls on them. Union folks on the Iron Range, for example, continue to vote Democrat, largely because they don't have to deal with the ramifications of the liberal insanity we deal with every day in the inner cities.
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Old 02-23-2019, 10:52 AM
 
Location: 78745
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The middle class blue collar family from the 1950's, 1960's, and 1970, when a man didn't need a college diploma or even a high school diploma to get a job in a factory and make enough money so his wife could stay home and take care of the kids, and have a nice late model vehicle, and a 2nd vehicle, and be able to family vacation every year, and send the kids to college.

That's how life was back then for many, if not most Baby Boomers. But those days are long gone, I'm sad to say. How I would love to go back to those days. Everything was original. The best tv shows. The best music. The best entertainment. Even cartoons were better back then. I could go on and on. Life was so much simpler then.

I think that's the era people are talking about when they say "Make America Great Again".
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Old 02-23-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Median household income of just over $68,000 is NOT "middle class"?
MAN! Those Fox News hosts sure have a messed up view of the world.


https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income/illinois/chicago/

Ken

Don't really understand "median," do ya?
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Old 02-23-2019, 11:16 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Don't really understand "median," do ya?
I understand it just fine. Do YOU?


"Median income is the amount that divides the income distribution into two equal groups, half having income above that amount, and half having income below that amount. Mean income (average) is the amount obtained by dividing the total aggregate income of a group by the number of units in that group."

"Pew defines the middle class as those earning between two-thirds and double the median household income.This means that the category of middle-income is made up of people making somewhere between $40,500 and $122,000."

In Chicago HALF the households have an income of over $68,000 - WELL within the range of "Middle Class"


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Old 02-23-2019, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Median household income of just over $68,000 is NOT "middle class"?
MAN! Those Fox News hosts sure have a messed up view of the world.


https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income/illinois/chicago/

Ken
Another prime time cable news host delivering red meat to its viewing audiences.

Does this sort of thing appeal to those in rural America where, in some cases, jobs are scare and most everyone is low income?

Things are so bad in Chicago that McDonads and Walgreens moved their headquarters and thousands of jobs to the city and did so to attract and retain skilled employees. Dozens of other companies have done likewise.

The retreat from suburban office campuses is happening throughout the US.

Things are so bad in Chicago that it had 55 million overnight visitors, last year who spent huge sums on lodging, dining, entertainment and shopping.
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Old 02-23-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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The middle class blue collar family from the 1950's, 1960's, and 1970, when a man didn't need a college diploma or even a high school diploma to get a job in a factory and make enough money so his wife could stay home and take care of the kids, and have a nice late model vehicle, and a 2nd vehicle, and be able to family vacation every year, and send the kids to college.

That's how life was back then for many, if not most Baby Boomers. But those days are long gone, I'm sad to say. How I would love to go back to those days. Everything was original. The best tv shows. The best music. The best entertainment. Even cartoons were better back then. I could go on and on. Life was so much simpler then.

I think that's the era people are talking about when they say "Make America Great Again".
And the rest of the world was either not as technically advanced or was still recovering from a terrible war.

That was a unique time in history, and things have changed. The world caught up and now we have to compete.
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